There is now good evidence that "Taylor Jimenez" is Joe Jared of Orange, CA.

NOTE: "Taylor" did post using the screen name "Sanford Wallace" & you 
might well find him referred to as "aka Sanford Wallace" on the 11 linked 
pages.

Misc. Forgeries including Forgeries Associated 
with Another(?) person using a Lart.com address
and ABUSE (forgeries) through yahoo.com
and ABUSE via cotse.com

 

Dear hostmaster@singnet.com.sg

Literally hundreds of posts are being made which are FORGERIES, because 
or your OPEN server. My name is "Brad Jesness"; MY email address is 
altshift@att.net mn.general and mn.politics my local newsgroups are 
getting spammed by someone going through your server. So are the 
newsgroups alt.2600 and alt.hackers.malicious The evidence is very very 
much. Just take a look and look for "Brad Jesness" and you will see 
all these forgeries. 

Please stop this criminal activity going through your service.

Thanks.

Sincerely, Brad Jesness

 

Dear noc@magix.com.sg

Literally hundreds of posts are being made which are FORGERIES, because 
or your OPEN server. My name is "Brad Jesness"; MY email address is 
altshift@att.net mn.general and mn.politics my local newsgroups are 
getting spammed by someone going through your server. So are the 
newsgroups alt.2600 and alt.hackers.malicious The evidence is very very 
much. Just take a look and look for "Brad Jesness" and you will see 
all these forgeries. 

Please stop this criminal activity going through your service.

Thanks.

Sincerely, Brad Jesness

 

Dear yahoo.com email service:

I am writing to inform you that your customer, 
Client Lartvocate <c_advocateus@yahoo.com> is engaging in harassment and 
completely off-topic and malicious posts to the sci.psychology.psychotherapy 
newsgroup. He appears to be emailing from yahoo.com to a mail2news service from your 
mailhost. This customer of yours should have his account terminated for 
violating AUP or TOS. If you go to group.google.com and do an advanced 
search for the author, Client Lartvocate <c_advocateus@yahoo.com> in 
the newsgroup sci.psychology.psychotherapy you will see nothing but off-topic 
spam, against the charter of the newsgroup. Here is the link that results from 
that search showing weeks of off-topic, disruptive, malicious spam:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:sci.psychology.psychotherapy+author:Client+author:Lartvocate+author:%3Cc_advocateus%40yahoo.com%3E&num=100&hl=en&scoring=r&filter=0 (put that address all on one line)



This spamming and harassment and off-topic malicious posting has been going on 
for weeks. Over 35 posts, all off-topic spam.

Please take care of this problem.

Sincerely, Brad Jesness 

Re: wriutng AGAIN re: Client Lartvocate <c_advocateus@yahoo.com>

Your customer continues to use yahoo.com as his connection to remailers 
to spam off-topic malice to the sci.psychology.psychotherapy newsgroup. 

Now, I know you would like me to attach the 50 posts he has made as 
oof-topi, malicious spam, BUT GET REAL. It is MUCH easier for you to 
just visit the sci.psychology.psychotherapy newsgroup and see the posts 
coming from Client Lartvocate <c_advocateus@yahoo.com> You can most easily 
view them this way and verify how this person is indeed posting to a 
SCI newsgroup, off-topic malicious spam. 

Please cancel his account for violation of TOS

 

 

Dear Steve (steve@cotse.com),

I know that you disapprove of the use of your service for off-topic 
malicous spam to newsgroups. You have a new "client" named 
<advocate-no-spam@cotse.net> This fellow is just the save "Client 
Lartvocate" guy that just got the boot from yahoo.com for dozens of 
malicious spam posts to sci.psychology.psychotherapy (using 
Client Lartvocate <c_advocateus@yahoo.com>)

This guy going through your service identifies himself as the same 
"lartvocate". How much malicious spam to sci.psychology.psychotherapy 
will it take before you drop him???

Should not be more than a few days before he is up to scores of malicious 
off-topic posts under <advocate-no-spam@cotse.net> or 
<advocate@cotse.net>

Expect to hear from me again as long as this spam and malice continues 
through your service.

Sincerely, Brad Jesness

 

Dear Steve (steve@cotse.com),

Here is just the first day of off-topic and abusive and malicious 
spam to a sci newsgroup from your client, <advocate@cotse.net> This is 
the first day he has had to use your service instead of his yahoo.com 
service:

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Another Melon wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:15:47 -0600, Dan Snyder <snyds@tc.umn.edu> 
wrote:
>
> >In article <u1i9f7cjcg3l1a@corp.supernews.com>,
> > "Dan Rogers" <dlrogers@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >
> >> > >I will admit that some work on behavior is therapy (behavior 
therapy) and
> >> > >SOME cognitive-behavior work is therapy (cognitive-behavioral 
therapy),
> >> > >but much of what is done with clients is COUNSELING. And, 
with some
> >> > >clients, this is all that's done. Counseling (as opposed to 
therapy)
> >> > >requires more judgement and discretion than therapy though 
often less is
> >> > >used. (The term should be used most often and with pride.) -- 
b.
> >> jesness
> >> 
> >> And this from the stoooopid kook who, just 2 years after this 
post, was
> >> claiming that there was and never had been any difference between 
therapy
> >> and counseling!
> >> 
> >> I am so glad that his history is so well documented. It's kinda 
like
> >> looking at cow poop: it is so much better to do it after it is 
dried.
> >> Resemblance goes deeper, too!
> >
> >Plus it is decidedly less odiferous.
> >
> >Of course, it should have been flushed down Morin's toilet long ago!
>
> I sure hope the Advocate updates The Brad FAQ with the new found 
Bradsteria.


LOL. 

I think we should find his first poast. Historic moment.

Prolly has >hello world< for the subject line. :)

Prolly just liek his first java script.
--
Your ever lovin' lartvocate
www.wilhelp.com/brad


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ThePsyko wrote:

> http://defaced.alldas.de/mirror/2001/12/08/www.amnesty.org/
>
> after all your whining about how hackers are terrorists.... maybe
> "they" were?
>
> ThePsyko
> Public Enemy #7
> "God told me to skin you alive"
>
> http://prozac.iscool.net

Ya, bradleess is a whiner.

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Another Melon wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 10:26:57 -0600, Dan Snyder <snyds@tc.umn.edu>
> wrote: 
>
> >In article <40a11d691101d54c9be0ad5e1c3be230@aarg.net>,
> > AARG!Anonymous <remailer@aarg.net> wrote:
> >
> >> This is the opinion most hold.
> >
> >In a world of "all socks, all the time", this would be true.
>
> The 800+ socks surely slant the count in Brad's favor, that is for
> sure. 


846!!!!!

LOLOLOLOL!!!

I wonder if they poast in RtS froups???


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AARG!Anonymous wrote:

> What a lunatic. Another one ripe for one of college's easiest and
> most useless majors. Supply evidence to the contrary. This is the
> opinion most hold.

Heh.

Damn if you aint stoopid.

Just like you freind RtS, aka Richard Bullis, whose reckoned to be a
pedo.

going by his poasts I haff to agree that it looks that way;-

In article <38a4712c_3@news.uncensored-news.com>, "Oxnard Systems ©"
<idiots@oxfordsystemssucks.com> writes

>It is true that I posted into alt.sex.children.

In article <38937636_4@news.uncensored-news.com>, "Oxnard Systems ©"
<idiots@oxfordsystemssucks.com> writes
>
>This is merely one sample of a group of photos I posted to
>alt.binaries.misc 1/23/00.
>
>A small group of would be do gooders have been trying, for over a
>>year, to have be me busted as a pedophile simply because I have
>stated >I collect this style of images. 



In article <35ebb383.1253570@news.internet-zahav.net>,
sandman <sandman@thebeach.com> writes

>Stacy Fleent wrote in message
>> Hi
>> I'm looking to buy Sabban videos (VHS or CD-i)
>>
>>Stacyfleent@hotmail.com


>Hell with the damn videos.
>she can come to my house and bring momma with her.
>what the heck, bring the guys too.


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Iceman wrote:

> He was serious here too, LOL!

(snicker)

Did ya find his first poast yet?


> >From: b1r2a3d4@aol.com (B1R2A3D4)
> >Subject: Re: Test of the openness of this newsgroup
> >Date: 1995/10/01
> >Message-ID: <44ncpc$not@newsbf02.news.aol.com>#1/1
> >sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
> >references: <44mv15$csf@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu>
> >organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
> >reply-to: b1r2a3d4@aol.com (B1R2A3D4)
> >newsgroups: sci.psychology.misc
> >
> >
> >It is true I don't "have a life." BUT this like many of my posts 
has some
> >importance. What if you had evidence your posts were not going to 
an open
> >newsgroup even when they looked like they were (on you own screen, 
BUT NOT
> >THAT OF OTHERS)? Would this concern you??





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Iceman wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 14:00:03 -0800, Client Lartvocate
> <c_advocateus@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >snipped<
>
> I noticed that you don't have much in the way of "ix.netcom.com"
> accounts. Seems to me he had some accounts there, perhaps mainly used
> for porno?

Now teh google archives go right back we will see. ;)

--
Your ever lovin' lartvocate
www.wilhelp.com/brad



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Iceman wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 14:00:03 -0800, Client Lartvocate
> <c_advocateus@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >snipped<
>
> I noticed that you don't have much in the way of "ix.netcom.com"
> accounts. Seems to me he had some accounts there, perhaps mainly used
> for porno?

Just found this. The aol man fredsen used stratus.skypoint.net. Thats a 
Bradless ISP for sure.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=4flddk%24948%
40stratus.skypoint.net&output=gplain

-- 
Your ever lovin' lartvocate
www.wilhelp.com/brad


Dear yahoo.com:

I should have written weeks ago. You customer (whose posts are quoted below) has been abusing the sci. newsgroup, sci.psychology.psychotherapy for weeks. 
He is off-topic and personally malicious in his posts. This has gone on for 
WEEKS and I am just sending you a sample of his recent posts to that 
newsgroup (that are still viewable in my newsreader). You could go to 
groups.google.com and see that for many weeks he has done nothing but similar 
abusive posts to this sci newsgroup. He goes by the name "ICEMAN", 
Iceman <c0ld0n3@yahoo.com>. Please 
enforce your TOS and AUP. Stop this off-topic abuse and harassment. 

Evidence below. Stop this personally abusive, off-topic, malicious spam to 
a sci newsgroup. 

Sincerely, Brad Jesness

From: 
Iceman <c0ld0n3@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: 
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Subject: 
Worried that his wife could see his stuff?
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From unowho

>From: notdisclosed <notdisclosed@nospaminame.com>
>Subject: What is my PWS's internet address?
>Date: 2000/08/31
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>
>Assuming I am on-line with an ISP and can determine my internet 
>server address with that ISP, how then could someone (like my wife on
>another ISP and on another phone line) call up a file on MY PWS ??
>

I wonder why the worry?

From: 
Iceman <c0ld0n3@yahoo.com>
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I can positively link Bradj@future.net to various other email addy's
(Meaning to the RL person) if anyone is interested, email me.

From: 
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:25:04 -0600, "Dan Rogers"
<dlrogers@frontiernet.net> wrote:

>> I sure hope the Advocate updates The Brad FAQ with the new found
>Bradsteria.
>
>Oooh!! Bradsteria. I haven't heard of that since I took botany in high
>school.
>
>Bradsteria, for those who do not know, is a cultivar of Wisteria, a
>beautiful, flowering, deciduous plant.
>
>What sets it apart is the variety of very unusual chemicals that it
>produces, many of which have very strong effects on people, but not a single
>one of them is useful! Very unusual.
>
>Bradsteria, for example, produces the same root growth control hormones as
>the dry swamp bunwart, one of the ugliest plants known. And it stinks even
>worse than a Stapelia flower (Stapelia foetida, beautiful flower that looks
>like, and smells like, rotting meat. My wife made me get rid of my
>specimens.) It grows only in northwestern Alabama, except for one peculiar
>population of the plant that grows in a small area, less than a half acre,
>in the southern part of Minneapolis.
>
>That chemical from Bradsteria, named ssenssej (Serbo-Croation for smegma),
>has an incredible ability to prevent the growth of many organisms, both
>plant and animal. In mammals, it prevents the growth of frontal lobe cells
>in the brain. It is clear that this has occurred in both areas in which it
>grows.
>
>Bradsteria also produces a chemical that crystallizes on the leaf margins,
>and the crystals fall to the ground and clump into an unusual mineral named
>Dildoite. It is the critical flavoring ingredient in White Castle sliders.
>A few foolish individuals, with brains stunted by the root growth hormones
>of Bradsteria, use it as salad sprinkles.
>
>Symptoms of such misuse of the dangerous chemical include: 1) a total
>inability to pick just one name; 2) microphallus; 3) compulsive collecting
>of earwax into clumps that are given names and treated as close friends. 2)
>and 3) are frequently confused by the poor subjects.
>
>Bradsteria produces no blooms at all, which is astounding in this group of
>plants otherwise known for beautiful blossoms. Instead of flowers and
>seeds, it attempts to spread by means of extending its roots into fecal
>material, which it attracts by another chemical compound it produces.
>
>That chemical, called bradfak, causes animals to come from miles around in
>oder to defecate on the odorous plant. When the animals get close to the
>plant they cough and retch, and for days afterwards have a distinctive
>cough, hence their being called "hackers," or, when they stomp around trying
>to rid themselves of the horrid stench, their foot stamping makes a noise
>that leads observers to call them "thuc hackers."
>
>An interesting plant, but absolutely no known use.
>
>Dan
>Master of Card XII
>Order of the detrevnI Buckyball, with Three Soot Clusters
>
>
ROTFLMAO!!!!

Rich! very rich.

But I have heard that it does blossom once a decade into a Blooming
Idiot, obviously no flower child..

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:07:16 -0600, "Dan Rogers"
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>
>"Iceman" <c0ld0n3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:c6si1u8g6a3ul8oqilhuc58402g1hbhf74@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:25:04 -0600, "Dan Rogers"
>> <dlrogers@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> I sure hope the Advocate updates The Brad FAQ with the new found
>> >Bradsteria.
>
>...
>> But I have heard that it does blossom once a decade into a Blooming
>> Idiot, obviously no flower child..
>
>I looked it up in my Botanical Compendium, and you are absolutely correct.
>Thanks! It's so much fun to learn kool stuff here.
>
>The article also mentioned that Bradsteria dries out very easily and it
>burns quickly but never completely. The only animal that grazes on
>Bradsteria is the Jackass. Fires that envelope the dried Bradsteria often
>catch Jackasses (such as those from the Nightmare Ranch) and result in
>flaming jackasses.
>
>Damn! Ain't knowledge great?
>
>Dan

DAMN! You're a great researcher.

Is it one of those rare plants that pollinates with itself?

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He was serious here too, LOL!

>From: b1r2a3d4@aol.com (B1R2A3D4)
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>It is true I don't "have a life." BUT this like many of my posts has some
>importance. What if you had evidence your posts were not going to an open
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 07:08:25 -0500 (EST), <advocate-no-spam@cotse.net>
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>Iceman wrote:
>
>> He was serious here too, LOL!
>
>(snicker)
>
>Did ya find his first poast yet?
>

Dunno, Even then there was so many alias's. Most of them was posts to
himself as no one seemed to respond. I think '95 was the first year
and Edna and Grohol his 1st "true loves".

>
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>> >importance. What if you had evidence your posts were not going to 
>an open
>> >newsgroup even when they looked like they were (on you own screen, 
>BUT NOT
>> >THAT OF OTHERS)? Would this concern you??
>
>
>
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:22:29 -0800, Another Melon
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>On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:50:55 GMT, Iceman <c0ld0n3@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 07:08:25 -0500 (EST), <advocate-no-spam@cotse.net>
>>wrote:
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>>>Iceman wrote:
>>>
>>>> He was serious here too, LOL!
>>>
>>>(snicker)
>>>
>>>Did ya find his first poast yet?
>>>
>>
>>Dunno, Even then there was so many alias's. Most of them was posts to
>>himself as no one seemed to respond. I think '95 was the first year
>>and Edna and Grohol his 1st "true loves".
>
>Real love or the type Renee Jesness must seek as Brad can't do it? Question
>is, did Renee cheat before or after Brad cheated?

Good question, but you saw her piccie, so the real question is, could
she cheat? After all, she DID marry Brad.

/me flicks ashes of cigar (Groucho style)

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:06:09 -0600, Dan Snyder <snyds@tc.umn.edu>
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>In article <eddl1ugcrvqi9u4c2979bptf3vn214j55g@4ax.com>,
> Another Melon <ihadsexwithrenne@her.home> wrote:
>
>> http://www.concentric.net/~cyberper/1.html
>
>I think this is telling. Look at the bottom of the page, where Renee 
>lists "Some Personal Pages".
>
>Is Brad to be found among her "Special Interests"?.
>
>No.
>
>Is that Brad appearing in pictures of Renee with Natalie Merchant and 
>Steve Miller?
>
>Umm, no.
>
>Is that Brad, scuba diving or otherwise frolicking with "some bubbly 
>fun"?
>
>Apparently he is afraid of water.
>
>How 'bout "traveling with friends", after all, it might be a way to 
>track down that pesky Peter Hood.
>
>Surely she would point out which friend is also her hubby.
>
>Ok, he must be found in the pics of "family".
>
>Actually, it is all cats.
>
>Pretty sad, when you think of it.

Not really. Would you rather have cats or his kids? If you were a
woman I mean.

But yes, she does seem happier to be with her Friends.


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On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 03:19:09 GMT, "Mark D. Morin"
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>> http://www.mpls.k12.mn.us/washburn/programs/departments/media/index.html
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>What kind of school is this--teach your web designers proper
>grammar--There's no period in Ms

That is why she has three cats, and a stay at home pooper-scooper.

/OH! You meant (.) period, me sorry.


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>From: ethpsych@aol.com (Ethpsych)
>Subject: Re: Severe Instantaneous Psychological Change
>Date: 1995/10/14
>Message-ID: <45odj3$kee@newsbf02.news.aol.com>#1/1
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>
>Comes with love of a woman, right after a lot of moody talk, talk, talk. 
>Trouble is it's so ridiculous and so much more in fantasy than reality
>still (or even more than it was to begin with). Humans are nuts, evil,
>and doomed to a well deserved extinction !!

Your customer continues to engage in harassment, and stalking, and off-topic 
malicious spam to a sci newsgroup. This has been reported before just days ago, 
with numerous newsgroup posts supplied as evidence. 
Stalking statutes prohibit harassing another 
person by engaging in intentional conduct in a manner which would cause the victim, 
under the circumstances, to feel frightened, threatened, oppressed, persecuted, or 
intimidated. Clearly this is expressly and exactly what ICEMAN is doing. 

In addition to breaking TOS and AUP, this person is breaking the law. I expect you 
company to take appropriate action. 

Please take appropriate action against this individual (this is the third complaint):


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On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:00:17 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
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>I am having trouble reconciling the long standing request of Rogers, Price,
>Morin, Arco, "Kali" et al with their present behavior. Here is what their
>position supposedly has been (and why they started the "sister" newsgroup):
>
>These psychologists and their pals have insisted that posts be on-topic.
>They used to barrage ISPs when posts were not on-topic. Even more so if
>the posts were "personal" or "ad hominen" (terms they used VERY broadly).
>They have also considered it abusive to bring up PEOPLES' pasts, like that
>of the ex-leading psychologist here, Leslie E. Packer of NY.
>The psychologists et all have labeled bringing up old allegations or
>old stuff about people that is NOT currently relevant as "stalking". (In
>fact, that IS their definition of "stalking".)
>
>Now, absolutely all the behaviors the leaders of this newsgroup supposedly
>are against THEY DO REGULARLY AND IN FACT IT IS THEIR MAIN ACTIVITY. What
>is with this sick depraved morally bankrupt hypocrites??? What do they
>want? It seems they simply aggress and at the same time support unethical
>conduct and punks. They support all the stuff they for years have been
>against. These persons are totally sick. THE PSYCHOLOGISTS HERE PROVE
>THAT THEY ARE SICK AT A LEVEL JUST BELOW USAMA BIN LADEN.
>
>P.S. Many psychologists here have very embarassing pasts ( many
>embarassing things can be found on many, many, many of the
>psychologists here). E.G.s: There are clear instances of stalking by Ph.D.s,
>hundreds of abusive posts to kook newsgroups, clear solicitation of
>favors from psychopathic punks etc. ... All this is supposed to help them
>seek their justice and the newsgroups they want like they want them to be??
>IF SO, WHY DO THEY ALL ALSO CONTINUOUSLY BREAK THEIR OWN RULES????? Their
>behavior literally seems to be insane and make no sense
>

Brad, you are poasting the same old garbage as if you were some clean
dude.

You are not. I am here simply because you asked in AHM and 2600, you
even poasted $100.00 payoffs to whomever helped you. Did you ever pay
anyone? I thought not, no one would befriend you.

I came, I saw, and instantly took a permanent dislike to you. You
poasted old news, things about people I never saw in the newsgroups,
like Peter Hood, Dr. Packer, etc. SO because you consistently used
these people to harangue and malign I took it upon myself to do as you
suggested and do a search, so to google I went, I did not come away
with goo-goo-googlie eyes, I came away with just who does this S.O.B.
think he is. I saw some poasts from people going through a
particularly rough time in their life, which would add to their
frustration when dealing with you, a heartless, thoughtless, creepy
individual. So they might have said things out of the hurt and
frustration. You on the other hand had no reason to ever say what you
did.

Now with all the "new" old information available, I can see that you
were the same before any of the present day characters. You must have
been green slime from your mothers womb. You started out of the chute,
filled with your own nonsense, posting many time to yourself when no
one else entered in to the conversation between your alter egos. Then
when someone did eventually respond you antagonized, belittled, and
even threatened them.

You were kicked out of Cyber-Cafes, kicked off ISP's, had even AOL
lock you down, crossposted ofttimes to eight or more ng's.

So your only way of getting the attention you felt you deserved was to
attack, so attack you did. Privately I am sure you get some
satisfaction out of this, but then reality settles in and you realize
that type of satisfaction does little to bolster respect of opionion,
so you start crying the blues, "Oh please, can't we all be friends?"
then you start your BOO HOO scenario. You even did this from the early
years, and continue unto this day. Even now you consistently break
your word, as you did in days of old.

I saw web sites of the some who mentioned you and you being the reason
they do not post to any NG. You followed them around, harassed, and
even personally intimidated them. So the elected to avoid all the
crap.

So I am here, not because anyone other than you provided the invite.
Not befriended by those you hate. With the sole purpose to help bring
you down, and hopefully through the legal channels. It would tickle my
heart to know that I had a hand in finding the right thing and
sequence of things that would permanently down you.

Now you are getting old and gray, can't make it in the hay. Your
legacy is your hatred, threats, and name calling. You will never make
a success of anything. Your jobs are short lived, almost as if you
teach one semester in the fall, so you can claim '78/'79. What a
loser, you state you have degree's but you cannot make any use of any
of them, you had heritage, but blew that too, And a "programmer"??
What a joke, puleeeaaase, any newbie can do what you have done, and
web design? What a joke, even the straight MS Frontpage version 4
which you had did a far better job with the lame templates they have
then you could ever dream up.

As to your "expert" capabilities in programming, all one has to do is
use your favorite email name of "notdisclosed @xxxx.com" to see what
damn fool questions you ask, and then on top of it you even showed
what a stupid teacher you were and posted a very lame question, then
thanked the one who answered on behalf of yourself and your students.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I am sure everyone who read that about died
laughing, thinking I;m sure glad I didn't have a "teacher" like that.

But the part I like best is, you know very well what you are, you even
hate the fact that you cannot escape your looser self. You are trapped
in that fat body of yours, doomed to constant repetition, constant
reposting, constant dribble, reduced to pure data entry clerk status,
or serving at the White Castle so you can eat some food on the side
for free, at least until you get thrown out for taking advantage.

You complain about your wife, you even live in fear of her for fear
she will catch you, again. You hate hearing her "Talk, talk talk" as
you put it. You complain still about being bullied in your youth.

You even encrypt parts of your HD, and have a fast kill button to wipe
delete everything on it for fear you will get caught. You get confused
over your PGP personal ID's you have so many. You live in fear that
your messages might not get posted. I'd even bet you are so afraid at
night to use the loo in your backyard that you use the cats litter box
for your business. Soooooo.....while you are here, online
I'll.........

Meanwhile just play with what little mind you have.

 

Dear yahoo.com:

Please do not allow your customer to do repetitive stalking harassing 
personally abusive and slanderous off-topic posts to a sci newsgroup. 
Please cancel this abusers account.


In addition to looking at the evidence for my complaints below, I encourage 
you to take a look at:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:c_advocateus%40yahoo.com+

(YOU WILL SEE 170 ABUSIVE OFF-TOPIC POSTS TO THE SCI.PSYCHOLOGY.PSYCHOTHERAPY 
NEWSGROUP!!)

Here is just a recent sample of stalking, libelous, personally abusive 
posts:




Date: 
Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:44:08 +0100
Posted-Date: 
Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:44:08 +0100
From: 
Anonymous <cripto@ecn.org>
Comments: 
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Subject: 
BJ FAQ
Newsgroups: 
sci.psychology.psychotherapy
References: 
<76d7ca318a41fb765fd23d253345fa47@remailer.privacy.at>
Reply-To: 
Client Lartvocate <c_advocateus@yahoo.com>
Organization: 
Client Lartvocates
X-URL: 
http://www.wilhelp.com/brad
X-URL: 
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=f4cfeba7ad1ad00de40263744f75880d@disastry.dhs.org
X-No-Inhale: 
No
X-Yes-Inhale: 
Errr, I stand on Miranda
X-comment: 
Report stalking by Brad L. Jesness to Ray DiPrima 651-642-0643
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I still here at yahoo.com Bradless.

Write me to find out how!

Usual disclaimers follow.

Disclaimer: This FAQ is not maintained by its original writer. It is not
maintained by its original maintainer. Nobody wrote it. Nobody maintains
it. A number of people have contributed to it. All errors are therefore
the responsibility of.... Nobody. Since it is published by Nobody, it may
be reposted wherever Anybody sees fit..

This FAQ is published to help educate the public about Bradley L. Jesness.
Jesness used to claim to be a counseling and psychology instructor in MN,
but there is no evidence that he has been employed in the field after June
1997. Originally viewed as just another "net kook," his cyberharassment
and cyberstalking escalated into offline harassment and stalking, despite
two warnings from law enforcment in his state. If you are new to usenet,
your best strategy is not to respond to Jesness at all if you are in the
field of psychology, as Jesness appears obsessed with harassing
professional therapists.

For all major points below, references are provided to usenet posts that
document the point. In most cases, there are many posts that prove the
point, but only one or two are provided here for each section.

FAQ Contents, press the linked images to go to each section:


1) Who is Brad Jesness and why does he have his own newsgroup?


2) What is Brad posting about, anyway?


3) How can you spot a Brad post, even an "Anonymous" one?


4) Where does Brad post?


5) The nasty side of Brad. (including stalking)


6) Brad's Kook awards.


7) Brad and Law Enforcement


8) Brad's aliases.


1) Who is Brad Jesness and what is alt.brad.jesness.die.die.die?


(a) Brad Jesness is a 47 year old man who lives in Minneapolis,
Minnesota, USA. His home address and phone number have been posted
publicly at times by those disgusted with his posting behavior [Message-ID:
<525gqq$goo$2@mhafn.production.compuserve.com>].


(b) Education and Credentials: Brad has a Master of Arts degree in
Educational Psychology from the University of Iowa in 1985. He claims that
he has taught at Augsburg College, the U. of N. Dakota, Williston and four
other places. He states that he held a regular full-time, permanent track
person at two places and that he has never lost a teaching position.
[Message-IDs <good_brad-2506981050310001@ts001d26.min-mn.concentric.net>,
<xx571479-1502971631160001@cnc04731.concentric.net>]


Brad also claimed to have a private consulting business that
advertised in the Yellow Pages in 1993. The listing was reportedly under
Counselors -- Marriage, Family, Child & Individual, as follows:


Jesness, Bradley MA
All Major Personality Measures & Psychological
Inventories
Individuals and Couples
Problems or Self Exploration
Indvidualized Programs

[Message-ID: <6qb7i2$k8j@tako.wwa.com>]

(b) Brad has a long history of trying to exaggerate his
credentials:


(i) In some messages, Brad stated that he "has been" an
instructor. In other posts, he claimed he "is" a community college
instructor. At one point, Brad claimed he worked for the UMN system. That
Brad has not been teaching on a continuous basis is indicated by an e-mail
of his alleging that he has taught psychology and counseling courses for
"over 6 years." Since he first started teaching in the 1980s, that leaves
a number of years where he was not employed as a college instructor
[Message-IDs:<3534b461.259558574@news-server>, <good_brad-
0202981533150001@ts002d04.min-mn.concentric.net>],
<30cb4a156435c97880bfe48e4a551ecd@base.xs4all.nl>,
<I3eK1.946$E9.3030205@ptah.visi.com>]. Additionally, although he originally
informed the State Board of Psychology in Iowa that he was then (currently)
an academic, etc., he later had to retract that statement. <Message-ID:
199812312051.VAA06008@replay.com>>


(ii) Brad claimed that he was "certified" as a
"professional in the field." That claim was investigated and it was found
that Brad has no license or certification in any field relating to
psychology or education in the State of Minnesota [Message-IDs:
<good_brad-2206970942490001@dial004.future.net>, <good_brad-
1008971250390001@ts008d04.min-mn.concentric.net>].


(iii) Brad once presented himself as a 42 year-old
"Professor" in an e-mail where he tried to persuade Peter Hood on a
professional issue. He later retracted that title. He also used sock
puppetry to refer to himself as "Professor Jesness." There is no
indication that Brad ever rose higher than the rank of Instructor.
[Message-IDs: <TOGwcLBMhCh1EwmV@wharton.demon.co.uk>,
<an607151-1305961811360001@198.22.19.206>].


(iv) Brad tried to imply that he worked at UMN. To that
end, he stated that he "affiliates himself" with the seventh largest
institution for child development . When challenged about his attempts to
mislead people about his affiliation, he responded that he is invited to a
meeting there every week [Message-IDs: <xx571479-1202971555040001@cnc047111
concentric.net>, <xx571479-1202971555040001 @cnc047111.concentric.net>].


(v) Brad claimed to be a "developmental psychologist." He
reluctantly agreed to stop calling himself by that title after
professionals posted the Minnesota laws about using the title and
threatened to report him for what might be a felony. When told that the
State Board of Psychology in MN disagreed with his interpretation of the
law, he referred to the State Psychology Board representative as an "idiot
BAG" [Message-IDs: <4u2tk5$ji2@stratus.skypoint.net>,
<good_brad-0107981637540001@ts001d37.min-mn.concentric.net>].


(vi) While claiming to be an internationally renowned and
respected ethologist and behavioral scientist, Brad has no published
research in any peer-reviewed journal. His only verifiable print
publications appear to be two papers he wrote as a graduate student that
are indexed in the ERIC digest (ERIC_NO: ED264960 and ERIC_NO: ED258729)
and a letter to the editor in an ethology journal.


(vii) Brad claimed to be a personality testing expert in an
e-mail to a graduate student [Message-ID:
<I3eK1.946$E9.3030205@ptah.visi.com>].


(c) Aliases and "Sock Puppets:" Brad has had a number of ISPs. He
has also had accounts canceled by a number of ISPs. Based on archived posts
and other sources, he has lost at least two AOL accounts, a Skypoint
account, access to his wife's account through TIES.k12.mn, a nymserver
account, a Juno account, and a twwells account. He has also been thrown off
professional e-mail lists for inappropriate behavior. Brad has been known
to sneak back on a mail list that he was thrown off of, only to be thrown
off again. Dr. Joe Plaud, listowner of the Clinical- Psychologists mail
list had this to say after throwing sock puppet jsmoe@supernews.com off the
list:




Over the years I have been forced to delete Brad Jesness from
this list in his various disguises. He must have hundreds of email
accounts, but the message remains the same. He has again
been deleted under his "Joe" Smoe disguise (which I hoped he
used as a tribute to me). Now that he is again deleted, our list
will enjoy a brief respite until he signs up under his next alias,
whence the process will be repeated yet again, ad infinitum.
Fear not, I am a tenacious listowner. Brad will email me some
threatening personal posts, probably call me a "Nazi" over
some usenet news groups, but as in the past I will not respond
to his unfortunate behavioral repertoire, I will endure it in silence
and be delighted that our list has once again been saved from
this unfortunate person's disruptive behavior.

One thing I actually find amusing is that it takes listmembers
only one or two posts from the new incarnation of Brad to
discover his true identity, once again starting the cycle. I am
sorry that this forum occasionally becomes a sounding board
for Jesness' incomprehensible agenda. I just hope he doesn't
live in a cabin in Montana. To the APA President, Martin Seligman,
one of the great psychologists in the history of the profession,
I apologize for Jesness' rantings and ravings, and will redouble
my efforts to see that none of my email lists are ever used to
promulgate the unfounded, unprofessional, discredited, and
clarity-deprived agenda of one Brad Jesness.
Joe Plaud
Listowner




Less than 12 hours later, Dr. Plaud reported that Brad had tried to
resubscribe to the list as jsmoe@my-dejanews.com.

Brad has used over 800 screen aliases in the six years that he has been
posting and is frequently referred to as "the Bard" or "Bradnee." Because
of his abuse of remailers to harass people in usenet and because of
forgeries published via their service, Infonex.com announced it was
canceling all accounts on cyberpass.net. [Message-ID:
<35c663d4.163214782@news.erols.com>].

Brad's current real e-mail addresses are not posted here, partly because
Brad doesn't realize that some people have determined them.


(d) In July, 1997, alt.brad.jesness.die.die.die (abjddd), was
created by John M. Price, PhD, as a long overdue response to Brad's abuse
of others. The flame group has been a sore spot for Brad, who declares that
everyone who posts to it is an abuser. Brad has been known to start threads
in abjddd when he wants to attack others or threaten them <see, for
example, his "Terms" post in Message-ID:
<20010224193859.85041.qmail@propane.zoomph.net> By his own definition,
then, he is an abuser. 




2) What is Brad Posting About, Anyway?

[snip of what is a very long and VERY false and libelous post]



THEN the very same post (person, off-topic, done to harass -- i.e. malicious 
REPETITIVE SPAM:

Date: 
Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:17:45 -0800
Sender: 
AARG! Anonymous <remailer@aarg.net>
Comments: 
This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at <abuse@aarg.net>.
Subject: 
Re: The sppFAQ on one psychologist (BJ) here(Other accusations -- THESE all true)
Newsgroups: 
sci.psychology.psychotherapy
References: 
<c5beb83f5ecb8d462c28164870cacf14@remailer.privacy.at>
From: 
Client Lartvocate <c_advocateus@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: 
Client Lartvocate <c_advocateus@yahoo.com>
Organization: 
Client Lartvocates
X-URL: 
http://www.wilhelp.com/brad
X-URL: 
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=f4cfeba7ad1ad00de40263744f75880d@disastry.dhs.org
X-No-Inhale: 
No
X-Yes-Inhale: 
Errr, I stand on Miranda
X-comment: 
Report stalking by Brad L. Jesness to Ray DiPrima 651-642-0643
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Anonymous <nobody@remailer.privacy.at> Drulez
>In response to personal on-topic useful post by Client Lartvocate:
>
>This FAQ about the sci.psychology.psychotherapy newsgroups.
>It is sent out to warn people of the problems in the spp newsgroup and
>real dangers in participating in the spp newsgroup without being anon.
>(A QUICK SENSIBLE 'ADVANCED SEARCH' using http://groups.google.com
> will quickly verify all the charges made below.)

Ya you damn right. Ppl here need to be anon or be stalked by j00 Bradless.

All proved. Msg ids included. j00 make allegations with no substantyation
thats because j00 just lie through you asshole.

Anyhow I still here at yahoo.com Bradless. Poasting away using encryption
an stuff.

Write me to find out how!

Usual disclaimers follow.

Disclaimer: This FAQ is not maintained by its original writer. It is not
maintained by its original maintainer. Nobody wrote it. Nobody maintains
it. A number of people have contributed to it. All errors are therefore
the responsibility of.... Nobody. Since it is published by Nobody, it may
be reposted wherever Anybody sees fit..

This FAQ is published to help educate the public about Bradley L. Jesness.
Jesness used to claim to be a counseling and psychology instructor in MN,
but there is no evidence that he has been employed in the field after June
1997. Originally viewed as just another "net kook," his cyberharassment
and cyberstalking escalated into offline harassment and stalking, despite
two warnings from law enforcment in his state. If you are new to usenet,
your best strategy is not to respond to Jesness at all if you are in the
field of psychology, as Jesness appears obsessed with harassing
professional therapists.

For all major points below, references are provided to usenet posts that
document the point. In most cases, there are many posts that prove the
point, but only one or two are provided here for each section.

FAQ Contents, press the linked images to go to each section:


1) Who is Brad Jesness and why does he have his own newsgroup?


2) What is Brad posting about, anyway?


3) How can you spot a Brad post, even an "Anonymous" one?


4) Where does Brad post?


5) The nasty side of Brad. (including stalking)


6) Brad's Kook awards.


7) Brad and Law Enforcement


8) Brad's aliases.


1) Who is Brad Jesness and what is alt.brad.jesness.die.die.die?


(a) Brad Jesness is a 47 year old man who lives in Minneapolis,
Minnesota, USA. His home address and phone number have been posted
publicly at times by those disgusted with his posting behavior [Message-ID:
<525gqq$goo$2@mhafn.production.compuserve.com>].


(b) Education and Credentials: Brad has a Master of Arts degree in
Educational Psychology from the University of Iowa in 1985. He claims that
he has taught at Augsburg College, the U. of N. Dakota, Williston and four
other places. He states that he held a regular full-time, permanent track
person at two places and that he has never lost a teaching position.
[Message-IDs <good_brad-2506981050310001@ts001d26.min-mn.concentric.net>,
<xx571479-1502971631160001@cnc04731.concentric.net>]


Brad also claimed to have a private consulting business that
advertised in the Yellow Pages in 1993. The listing was reportedly under
Counselors -- Marriage, Family, Child & Individual, as follows:


Jesness, Bradley MA
All Major Personality Measures & Psychological
Inventories
Individuals and Couples
Problems or Self Exploration
Indvidualized Programs

[Message-ID: <6qb7i2$k8j@tako.wwa.com>]

(b) Brad has a long history of trying to exaggerate his
credentials:



[snip] of same long post 

The ONLY other sort of post this poster makes to this 
sci.psychology.psychotherapy SCI newsgroup is also of a harassing nature. 

YOUR customer forces people to NOT post x-no-archive, though he often does 
so himself.

 

Dear Steve, I sent an earlier similar email documenting many, many, 
off-topic personal abusive spam posts to a sci newsgroup by this 
customer of yours. Here is some more (below). Please take appropriate 
TOS/AUP action. I suggest you drop the user.

I know that you disapprove of the use of your service for off-topic 
malicous spam to newsgroups. You have a new "client" named 
<advocate-no-spam@cotse.net> This fellow is just the save "Client 
Lartvocate" guy that just got the boot from yahoo.com for dozens of 
malicious spam posts to sci.psychology.psychotherapy (using 
Client Lartvocate <c_advocateus@yahoo.com>)

This guy going through your service identifies himself as the same 
"lartvocate". How much malicious spam to sci.psychology.psychotherapy 
will it take before you drop him???

Should not be more than a few days before he is up to scores of malicious 
off-topic posts under <advocate-no-spam@cotse.net> or 
<advocate@cotse.net>

Expect to hear from me again as long as this spam and malice continues 
through your service.

Sincerely, Brad Jesness (See evidence below)

Message-ID: 
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Date: 
Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:58:45 -0500 (EST)
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X-Abuse-To: 
abuse@cotse.com
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http://packetderm.cotse.com/antiforge.php
X-No-Archive: 
yes
Subject: 
Early pedo allegatins as promised
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Remember this????

From: nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)
Subject: Re: Brad FAQ (as told by convicted pedophiles)
Date: 1998/07/22
Message-ID: <6p5hhj$2rp$1@basement.replay.com>#1/1
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Organization: Replay Associates, L.L.P.
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Newsgroups: alt.flame.psychiatry,alt.society.mental-
health,sci.psychology.psychotherapy


In alt.flame.psychiatry you write:

> 1) Who is Brad Jesness and why does he have his own newsgroup?

He has his own newsgroup because his enemies molest kids.

> 2) How did Brad manage to accumulate 45+ MB of garbage in usenet?

By being forced to respond to accusations lodged by the convicted
pedophiles who oppose him.

> 3) How can you spot a Brad post, even an "Anonymous" one? 

You don't, unless you're a pedophile.

> 4) Where does Brad post?

In newsgroups where he gets attacked by pedophiles.

> iv) In July, 1997, alt.brad.jesness.die.die.die (abjddd),
> was created by John M. Price, PhD

John M. Price sounds like someone who fucks little boys.






-- 
Your ever lovin' lartvocate
www.wilhelp.com/brad


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More early pedo allegatins
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Rem,ember this?

xs4all!not-for-mail
From: nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)
Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,sci.psychology.psychotherapy,alt.society.mental-
health
Subject: Re: Brad FAQ//O to be a pedophile, meaning you can spam
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In alt.usenet.kooks you write:

> Brad FAQ v. 3.3, written by anonmyous@replay.com

>The anonymous posters (please note the plural!) publicly gave me permission to
>host the FAQ on this site. I will keep the latest version. In addition I am
>going to pull out some earlier FAQs on Brad.

O to be a pedophile. Pedophiles get to spam their libelous FAQ about Brad
to 72 groups without retribution.

Here's how it works on usenet...

1) Pedophiles are president
2) Racists are the president's cabinet
3) Everyone else is at the mercy of the racists and pedophiles

-- 
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Taht was yr favorite remailer wasnt it?????

From: nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology.psychotherapy,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.society.mental-
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Subject: Does Bill Keesing fuck little boys?
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In alt.usenet.kooks you write:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----


>Cognitee wrote in message ...
>>I didn't do it. I disapprove of it almost as much as you do, Dave.


>Yeah, sure Bradness.

>Adn the moon is made of green cheese.

>Your "style" stands out a mile Mr 325+

>- -----
>Bill Keesing

Does this piece of shit have any idea what he is talking about ??

Bill Keesing sounds like a fucked up man - probably a member of NAMBLA

He sounds like someone who sucks the cocks of 5 year olds - I mean that
literally

-- 
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www.wilhelp.com/brad


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Foller the thread up.

Ppl stuck up for you.

You didnt deserve that. They shouldve left you to suffer.



From: Anonymous <nobody@replay.com>
Newsgroups: umn.general,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.flame.psychiatry,alt.flame
Subject: Brad Jesness : Child Molester
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And still
YET more off-topic, malicious, abusive spam in a sci newsgroup from your 
customer. What is the magic number of clearly abusive spam posts are 
you needing to get RE: <advocate-no-spam@cotse.net> I would think 
your TOS would have seen enough:

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Remember this????

From: nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)
Subject: Re: Brad FAQ (as told by convicted pedophiles)
Date: 1998/07/22
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In alt.flame.psychiatry you write:

> 1) Who is Brad Jesness and why does he have his own newsgroup?

He has his own newsgroup because his enemies molest kids.

> 2) How did Brad manage to accumulate 45+ MB of garbage in usenet?

By being forced to respond to accusations lodged by the convicted
pedophiles who oppose him.

> 3) How can you spot a Brad post, even an "Anonymous" one? 

You don't, unless you're a pedophile.

> 4) Where does Brad post?

In newsgroups where he gets attacked by pedophiles.

> iv) In July, 1997, alt.brad.jesness.die.die.die (abjddd),
> was created by John M. Price, PhD

John M. Price sounds like someone who fucks little boys.






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Rem,ember this?

xs4all!not-for-mail
From: nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)
Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,sci.psychology.psychotherapy,alt.society.mental-
health
Subject: Re: Brad FAQ//O to be a pedophile, meaning you can spam
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In alt.usenet.kooks you write:

> Brad FAQ v. 3.3, written by anonmyous@replay.com

>The anonymous posters (please note the plural!) publicly gave me permission to
>host the FAQ on this site. I will keep the latest version. In addition I am
>going to pull out some earlier FAQs on Brad.

O to be a pedophile. Pedophiles get to spam their libelous FAQ about Brad
to 72 groups without retribution.

Here's how it works on usenet...

1) Pedophiles are president
2) Racists are the president's cabinet
3) Everyone else is at the mercy of the racists and pedophiles

-- 
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www.wilhelp.com/brad


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Taht was yr favorite remailer wasnt it?????

From: nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology.psychotherapy,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.society.mental-
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Subject: Does Bill Keesing fuck little boys?
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In alt.usenet.kooks you write:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----


>Cognitee wrote in message ...
>>I didn't do it. I disapprove of it almost as much as you do, Dave.


>Yeah, sure Bradness.

>Adn the moon is made of green cheese.

>Your "style" stands out a mile Mr 325+

>- -----
>Bill Keesing

Does this piece of shit have any idea what he is talking about ??

Bill Keesing sounds like a fucked up man - probably a member of NAMBLA

He sounds like someone who sucks the cocks of 5 year olds - I mean that
literally

-- 
Your ever lovin' lartvocate
www.wilhelp.com/brad


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Foller the thread up.

Ppl stuck up for you.

You didnt deserve that. They shouldve left you to suffer.



From: Anonymous <nobody@replay.com>
Newsgroups: umn.general,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.flame.psychiatry,alt.flame
Subject: Brad Jesness : Child Molester
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I think you got no sense or you would stop.

Read just after you libelous poast.

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I do not know what I would do without my dear Gary Burnore, proven,
convicted and confessed child molester. I use all his services.

But you already said this;-

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From: good_bradj@hotmail.com
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Subject: Limited Apology to Jimenez From Brad
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I do not think there is any evidence I am aware of that Jimenez 
associates in any real or meaningful way with pedophiles. 
I also would say that I do not think most people would 
think it appropriate to characterize Jimenez's actions as those of a 
terrorist. While I believe some of the things he has done are wrong 
and even very wrong, I would not use the word terrorist. 
I apologize if anyone appearing to be a friend of mine said such 
mean things about 'Taylor' Jimenez. 

I could say more regarding Taylor Jimenez, but none would be good. 
I do not want to further hurt this individual's feelings, since he 
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ .



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Some ppl aint men or women of their words. If Taylor assocates with Gary and 
Taylor dont associate with pedos what does that mean???

Duh.
-- 
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www.wilhelp.com/brad




You customer is making threats. It is important for you to act quickly 
and decisively:

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Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> writes

>Sender: Anonymous Coredump <mixmaster@remailer.segfault.net>
>Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
> It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
> Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
> remailer administrator at <jochen@segfault.net>.
> http://remailer.segfault.net/mixmaster/ 
>To: gburnore@netbasix.net
>From: Friend_of_Brad@helferlein.net
>Subject: You will be held accountable.
>Message-ID: <e7c1bdb8b4ab52db8c5144f25a90abaf@remailer.segfault.net>
>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:43:43 +0100 (CET)
>X-UIDL: \!>"!V2)#!,?D!!4Hi!!
>
>As wilhelp.com (like petitmorte.com) is a subdomain of databasix.com and
>since you are the owner
>of databasix, the following information will be revealed next time your
>domain or anyone from your domain engages in the smearing of Brad.
>I will give you 2 weeks to make sure no one can reference any smear
>that exists ON OR THROUGH any of your services. This is your one warning.
>
>
>
>Hey, Brad. I thought you said the last one was my one and only warning. :)
>
>Hint: You'll have to change remailers now. I blocked that one.

'Nother hint for him;-

Watch usenet carefully for a few days.

Somethin interestings bout to happen.
-- 
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www.wilhelp.com/brad





It is obvious that this fellow is threatening more and worse behavior. 
I have already summitted much evidence of:
him already being a personal malicious repetitive off-topic spammer 
to such a degree that ANY service like AOL would have canceled him already. 

I know Steve has cancelled people for less and I appeal to his sense of 
decency and fairness:

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Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> writes

>Sender: Anonymous Coredump <mixmaster@remailer.segfault.net>
>Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
> It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
> Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
> remailer administrator at <jochen@segfault.net>.
> http://remailer.segfault.net/mixmaster/ 
>To: gburnore@netbasix.net
>From: Friend_of_Brad@helferlein.net
>Subject: You will be held accountable.
>Message-ID: <e7c1bdb8b4ab52db8c5144f25a90abaf@remailer.segfault.net>
>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:43:43 +0100 (CET)
>X-UIDL: \!>"!V2)#!,?D!!4Hi!!
>
>As wilhelp.com (like petitmorte.com) is a subdomain of databasix.com and
>since you are the owner
>of databasix, the following information will be revealed next time your
>domain or anyone from your domain engages in the smearing of Brad.
>I will give you 2 weeks to make sure no one can reference any smear
>that exists ON OR THROUGH any of your services. This is your one warning.
>
>
>
>Hey, Brad. I thought you said the last one was my one and only warning. :)
>
>Hint: You'll have to change remailers now. I blocked that one.

'Nother hint for him;-

Watch usenet carefully for a few days.

Somethin interestings bout to happen.
-- 
Your ever lovin' lartvocate
www.wilhelp.com/brad