There is now good evidence that "Taylor Jimenez" is Joe Jared of Orange, CA.

NOTE: "Taylor" did post using the screen name "Sanford Wallace" & you 
might well find him referred to as "aka Sanford Wallace" on the 11 linked 
pages.

Sample Complaints to Altopia over Forgeries 
Connected to "Taylor Jimenez" AKA Sanford Wallace and his Associates

I have complained about yor customer before and you have already 
warned him. He contines forging me and my wife's name to our local 
mn newsgroup. My wife is a political appointee of Gov. Jesse Ventura. 

Please cut this account(s) off:


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On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:09:11 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> wrote:

>
>"Yomamma bin Crawdaden" <Crawdad@bayou.com> wrote in message
>news:3be5da01.699429015@news.earthlink.net...
>> On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 23:17:06 GMT, Iceman <c0ld0n3@yahoo.com> managed
>> to type:
>>
>> >I apologize to you and your group for the harsh retorts going on her.
>> >
>> >I have tried to get the little hungarian to post other than to SPP,
>> >and will continue to do so.
>> >
>> >I hope this all stops soon, and being as he has little left to say I
>> >can only surmise it be soon.
>> >
>> >Again My Apologies, I will not be posting further replies to said
>> >person here in SPP and any replies to him will have the SPP group
>> >erased.
>>
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dr. Dan,
>> That goes for me too.
>> I said I wasn't going to trash the other group, but bacon boi
>> kinda got me a wee bit pissed.
>> Anyway,
>> It appears he has come to the realization that it is
>> not in his best interest to continue pissing in the SPP pool.
>> I will once again say my good bye's and gracefully
>> exit out of the other group also.
>> I've got to give him credit though.
>> He is a tad bit more of a realist than my other friend, and
>> probably a bit more intelligent.
>> :-)
>>
>>
>
>
>You still here numbnuts..
> I guess I have to startringing your bell again..
>
>


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On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 08:04:30 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> wrote:

>"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred@catholic.org> wrote in message
>news:PM000391E899BF1739@dhcppc1.home.com...
>> Yomamma bin Crawdaden wrote:
>> > On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:10:18 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> > managed to type:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"Yomamma bin Crawdaden" <Crawdad@bayou.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:3be540cf.529128696@news.earthlink.net...
>> >>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:11:42 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> >>> managed to type:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >> I take it that you are finally realizing you are bringing a
>> > pointed
>> >>> >> stick to a gunfight. If you use your kill filters judiciously,
>> > you will
>> >>> >> never see me post in mn.general again. That way you can be sure
>> > you
>> >>> >> won't see any of my posts if I inadveretantly crosspost, or even
>> > decide
>> >>> >> I find discussions about snowblowers, chainsaws and autoparts
>> >>> >> interesting and want to participate in an unmoderated public
>> > forum like
>> >>> >> mn.general.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >You seem to be confused..
>> >>> > But then, you do live in fantasy-land, don't you..
>> >>> >I had to go blow my nose..
>> >>> > And that is a much more important task than twaking a twit..
>> >>> >But I'm back know.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >By the way, you are NOT "inadvertantly crossposting"
>> >>> >You are doing it with full knowledge, because I have been removing
>> >>> >mn.general for the last half-dozen of my posts..
>> >>> >
>> >>> >As to discussions about chansaws and autoparts..
>> >>> > That hasn't occured recently (like the last 3 years) in
>> > mn.general
>> >>> >So you are really, really confused..
>> >>> >Obviously, sci.psychology.psychotherapy, has not been much help
>> > for you
>> >>> >"issues", (that's "problems" for more normal people)...
>> >>> >
>> >>> >But feel free to continue fantasizing about being some kind of
>> > mean
>> >>> >"guslinger"
>> >>> >But do tell is when you actually will graduate to water-pistols..
>> >>> > Well be sure to throw a party for you to celebrate..
>> >
>> >>> Mr. Salley,
>> >>>
>> >>> <snip>
>> >>
>> >>Wow..
>> >> An idiot who gives advice, who can't even copy 4 letters withouyt
>> > adding
>> >>2 more.
>> >
>> > That's not how to spell your name Sally?
>> >
>> > Do you spell it with a "y" or "ie"
>> >
>> > You see,
>> > I am just a dumb crustacean and have a rough time distinguishing
>> > those types of names.
>> > I feel that is no reason for you to get personal with me.
>> >
>> > After reading your intellectual regurgitations in here,
>> > I just figured that you were one of those sexaully confused type of
>> > folk trying to prove your manlihood.
>> >
>> > I will try not to make that mistake again.....
>> >
>> >>Keep your advice, bubba.
>> >>I don't take advice from sub-par idiots..
>> >
>> > That's too bad sweetheart.....
>> > You seemed like a nice understanding little girl.
>> > :-)
>> >
>> He certainly whines like one.
>>
>> I think the Yomamma bin Crawdaden method of operant conditioning is
>> working on her too. I might start graphing her posts to see which kind
>> of posting regimen we should put her on: variable interval, or variable
>> ratio. My hypothesis would be that if you wait variable lengths of time
>> between spanking her, the plot will indicate a 45 degree angle of
>> responses on the graph with her posts coming slightly more frequently
>> closer to the time she expects the ultimate reward of you responding to
>> her rants. As time passes, the posts will become fast and furious and
>> drop off slightly right after her spanking reward (this really depends
>> on the interval). On the other hand, if you reply randomly with no
>> regard to time (variable ratio), we will get a much steeper curve of
>> continuous responses (such as we are seeing now), and no drop off in
>> responses. The really funny part will be when you finally tire of
>> delivering the spank, and simply let the behaviour extinguish it's self.
>> There will be a furious amount of responses until the halfwit realizes
>> that responding any further will be futile and will never deliver the
>> sought after spanking and she will go away.
>>
>> I look forward to publishing my results in the "annals of usenet
>> kookery"
>> --
>> For you don't count the dead
>> When God's on your side.
>> -Bob Dylan
>


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On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 08:04:30 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> wrote:

>"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred@catholic.org> wrote in message
>news:PM000391E899BF1739@dhcppc1.home.com...
>> Yomamma bin Crawdaden wrote:
>> > On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:10:18 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> > managed to type:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"Yomamma bin Crawdaden" <Crawdad@bayou.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:3be540cf.529128696@news.earthlink.net...
>> >>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:11:42 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> >>> managed to type:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >> I take it that you are finally realizing you are bringing a
>> > pointed
>> >>> >> stick to a gunfight. If you use your kill filters judiciously,
>> > you will
>> >>> >> never see me post in mn.general again. That way you can be sure
>> > you
>> >>> >> won't see any of my posts if I inadveretantly crosspost, or even
>> > decide
>> >>> >> I find discussions about snowblowers, chainsaws and autoparts
>> >>> >> interesting and want to participate in an unmoderated public
>> > forum like
>> >>> >> mn.general.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >You seem to be confused..
>> >>> > But then, you do live in fantasy-land, don't you..
>> >>> >I had to go blow my nose..
>> >>> > And that is a much more important task than twaking a twit..
>> >>> >But I'm back know.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >By the way, you are NOT "inadvertantly crossposting"
>> >>> >You are doing it with full knowledge, because I have been removing
>> >>> >mn.general for the last half-dozen of my posts..
>> >>> >
>> >>> >As to discussions about chansaws and autoparts..
>> >>> > That hasn't occured recently (like the last 3 years) in
>> > mn.general
>> >>> >So you are really, really confused..
>> >>> >Obviously, sci.psychology.psychotherapy, has not been much help
>> > for you
>> >>> >"issues", (that's "problems" for more normal people)...
>> >>> >
>> >>> >But feel free to continue fantasizing about being some kind of
>> > mean
>> >>> >"guslinger"
>> >>> >But do tell is when you actually will graduate to water-pistols..
>> >>> > Well be sure to throw a party for you to celebrate..
>> >
>> >>> Mr. Salley,
>> >>>
>> >>> <snip>
>> >>
>> >>Wow..
>> >> An idiot who gives advice, who can't even copy 4 letters withouyt
>> > adding
>> >>2 more.
>> >
>> > That's not how to spell your name Sally?
>> >
>> > Do you spell it with a "y" or "ie"
>> >
>> > You see,
>> > I am just a dumb crustacean and have a rough time distinguishing
>> > those types of names.
>> > I feel that is no reason for you to get personal with me.
>> >
>> > After reading your intellectual regurgitations in here,
>> > I just figured that you were one of those sexaully confused type of
>> > folk trying to prove your manlihood.
>> >
>> > I will try not to make that mistake again.....
>> >
>> >>Keep your advice, bubba.
>> >>I don't take advice from sub-par idiots..
>> >
>> > That's too bad sweetheart.....
>> > You seemed like a nice understanding little girl.
>> > :-)
>> >
>> He certainly whines like one.
>>
>> I think the Yomamma bin Crawdaden method of operant conditioning is
>> working on her too. I might start graphing her posts to see which kind
>> of posting regimen we should put her on: variable interval, or variable
>> ratio. My hypothesis would be that if you wait variable lengths of time
>> between spanking her, the plot will indicate a 45 degree angle of
>> responses on the graph with her posts coming slightly more frequently
>> closer to the time she expects the ultimate reward of you responding to
>> her rants. As time passes, the posts will become fast and furious and
>> drop off slightly right after her spanking reward (this really depends
>> on the interval). On the other hand, if you reply randomly with no
>> regard to time (variable ratio), we will get a much steeper curve of
>> continuous responses (such as we are seeing now), and no drop off in
>> responses. The really funny part will be when you finally tire of
>> delivering the spank, and simply let the behaviour extinguish it's self.
>> There will be a furious amount of responses until the halfwit realizes
>> that responding any further will be futile and will never deliver the
>> sought after spanking and she will go away.
>>
>> I look forward to publishing my results in the "annals of usenet
>> kookery"
>> --
>> For you don't count the dead
>> When God's on your side.
>> -Bob Dylan
>


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On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:53:26 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> wrote:

>
>"Yomamma bin Crawdaden" <Crawdad@bayou.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 21:41:06 GMT, Rev Turd Fredericks
>> <turdfred@catholic.org> managed to type:
>>
>> >Yomamma bin Crawdaden wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 05:49:48 GMT, Rev Turd Fredericks
>> >> <turdfred@catholic.org> managed to type:
>> >>
>> >>>Yomamma bin Crawdaden wrote:
>> >>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:10:18 -0600, "Peter S. Saly"
>
>
>Ha !
> Looks like my Pavlovian trainee is back..
> He sees or imagines "Saly" in a post..
> And he can't help himself..
> Yap, Yap, Yap.
> Like a good little Pavlovian cur..
> It'a all in the training...
>
>


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It seems that Peter S. Saly thinks it is OK to abuse numerous newsgroups.
It would be best for all groups to just filter on Peter S. Saly in the from:
subject: and body lines. A Peter S. Saly flood will soon take place.

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 05:09:16 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> wrote:

>
>"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred@catholic.org> wrote in message
>news:PM000391FAEB1C0D3D@dhcppc1.home.com...
>> Peter S. Saly wrote:
>> >
>> > "Yomamma bin Crawdaden" <Crawdad@bayou.com> wrote in message
>> > news:3bfeb8aa.690893312@news.earthlink.net...
>> >> On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:48:17 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Ha !
>> > Looks like my Pavlovian trainee is back..
>> > He sees or imagines "Saly" in a post..
>> > And he can't help himself..
>> > Yap, Yap, Yap.
>> > Like a good little Pavlovian cur..
>> > It'a all in the training...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Peter S. Saly wrote:
>> >
>> > "Yomamma bin Crawdaden" <Crawdad@bayou.com> wrote in message
>> > news:3bfdb89f.690882372@news.earthlink.net...
>> >> On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:36:43 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Ha !
>> > Looks like my Pavlovian trainee is back..
>> > He sees or imagines "Saly" in a post..
>> > And he can't help himself..
>> > Yap, Yap, Yap.
>> > Like a good little Pavlovian cur..
>> > It'a all in the training...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Reposted for the benefit of mn.general Sally forgot to crosspost this
>> one.
>> --
>
>The only person crossposting here is you, you turd...
>


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On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:47:01 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> wrote:

>"ThePsyko" <thepsyko@itookmyprozac.com> wrote in message
>news:3be04020.15215158@news.alt.net...
>> On the hallowed day of Tue, 30 Oct 2001 22:49:41 GMT, Iceman
>> <c0ld0n3@yahoo.com> slapped out:
>>
>> >On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:04:26 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>Sadly the police are completely under-equipped to cope with such cases
>even
>> >>if it's the victim who files the complaint..
>> >>Also, in Minneapolis, the unit responsible for such stalking issues, is
>the
>> >>-crimes unit, which will give it's priorites and ressources to more
>> >>immediate and serious cases..
>> >>The Feebs, are the same way, except if they feel that there is a
>potential
>> >>for them to gain some publicity. Otherwise it's a lesser priority than
>> >>closing unsolved files about communists during McCarthy..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Peter, do yourself a favor, go to www.lart.com/brad which will forward
>> >you to a temp site and read the FAQS on BJ before you get too far into
>> >this thing.
>> >
>> >You are making yourself look like an ass defending something you do
>> >not know about.
>> >
>> >Unless you are a friend of BJ's, then you would be an ASS for sure.
>> >
>> >Your call.
>> >
>> >And by the way, your governor and the Mn School Board should really
>> >look into this thing in a serious way. Her decisions could be clouded
>> >by her association with BJ.
>> >
>> >For instance, she voted for passage of non-credentialed people to be
>> >allowed in certain areas of support for the schools. Like social
>> >counseling, etc. If this opened a path for BJ to "practice" his skills
>> >on your kids I would be suspect, given his bias' and slandering ways,
>> >plus threats he sends in the email.
>>
>> THIS is scary.. can you email me that info?
>>
>
>Please don't feed the kooks..
>
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All posts by "Brad Jesness" out of your service are forgeries. 
CANCEL THEM PLEASE so they are not part of the google archive record. 

These are samples of earlier complaints I sent:

>Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 15:07:32 -0800
>To: abuse@altopia.com
>From: Brad <altshift@att.net>
>Subject: Forgery and abuse by your customer
>Cc: postmaster@altopia.com
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>Dear altopia.com
>
>A customer or user of your services is forging both my name and email address 
>and posting abusively to my local newsgroups, mn.general, mn.jobs, mn.politics etc.
>
>This forgery and abuse is certainly against your terms of service. The 
>message id of the post to mn.general (etc) is:
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> <hufguts2hmt8pc4fcm56mlsvm3mfkiidb2@4ax.com>
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>I would appreciate any help you can provide in stopping this abuse of 
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>
>Sincerely, Brad Jesness (the real one)

I have complained about yor customer before and you have already 
warned him. He contines forging me and my wife's name to our local 
mn newsgroup. My wife is a political appointee of Gov. Jesse Ventura. 

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From: 
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On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:09:11 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> wrote:

>
>"Yomamma bin Crawdaden" <Crawdad@bayou.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 23:17:06 GMT, Iceman <c0ld0n3@yahoo.com> managed
>> to type:
>>
>> >I apologize to you and your group for the harsh retorts going on her.
>> >
>> >I have tried to get the little hungarian to post other than to SPP,
>> >and will continue to do so.
>> >
>> >I hope this all stops soon, and being as he has little left to say I
>> >can only surmise it be soon.
>> >
>> >Again My Apologies, I will not be posting further replies to said
>> >person here in SPP and any replies to him will have the SPP group
>> >erased.
>>
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dr. Dan,
>> That goes for me too.
>> I said I wasn't going to trash the other group, but bacon boi
>> kinda got me a wee bit pissed.
>> Anyway,
>> It appears he has come to the realization that it is
>> not in his best interest to continue pissing in the SPP pool.
>> I will once again say my good bye's and gracefully
>> exit out of the other group also.
>> I've got to give him credit though.
>> He is a tad bit more of a realist than my other friend, and
>> probably a bit more intelligent.
>> :-)
>>
>>
>
>
>You still here numbnuts..
> I guess I have to startringing your bell again..
>
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From: 
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"Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> Why are you
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On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 08:04:30 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> wrote:

>"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred@catholic.org> wrote in message
>news:PM000391E899BF1739@dhcppc1.home.com...
>> Yomamma bin Crawdaden wrote:
>> > On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:10:18 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> > managed to type:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"Yomamma bin Crawdaden" <Crawdad@bayou.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:3be540cf.529128696@news.earthlink.net...
>> >>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:11:42 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> >>> managed to type:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >> I take it that you are finally realizing you are bringing a
>> > pointed
>> >>> >> stick to a gunfight. If you use your kill filters judiciously,
>> > you will
>> >>> >> never see me post in mn.general again. That way you can be sure
>> > you
>> >>> >> won't see any of my posts if I inadveretantly crosspost, or even
>> > decide
>> >>> >> I find discussions about snowblowers, chainsaws and autoparts
>> >>> >> interesting and want to participate in an unmoderated public
>> > forum like
>> >>> >> mn.general.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >You seem to be confused..
>> >>> > But then, you do live in fantasy-land, don't you..
>> >>> >I had to go blow my nose..
>> >>> > And that is a much more important task than twaking a twit..
>> >>> >But I'm back know.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >By the way, you are NOT "inadvertantly crossposting"
>> >>> >You are doing it with full knowledge, because I have been removing
>> >>> >mn.general for the last half-dozen of my posts..
>> >>> >
>> >>> >As to discussions about chansaws and autoparts..
>> >>> > That hasn't occured recently (like the last 3 years) in
>> > mn.general
>> >>> >So you are really, really confused..
>> >>> >Obviously, sci.psychology.psychotherapy, has not been much help
>> > for you
>> >>> >"issues", (that's "problems" for more normal people)...
>> >>> >
>> >>> >But feel free to continue fantasizing about being some kind of
>> > mean
>> >>> >"guslinger"
>> >>> >But do tell is when you actually will graduate to water-pistols..
>> >>> > Well be sure to throw a party for you to celebrate..
>> >
>> >>> Mr. Salley,
>> >>>
>> >>> <snip>
>> >>
>> >>Wow..
>> >> An idiot who gives advice, who can't even copy 4 letters withouyt
>> > adding
>> >>2 more.
>> >
>> > That's not how to spell your name Sally?
>> >
>> > Do you spell it with a "y" or "ie"
>> >
>> > You see,
>> > I am just a dumb crustacean and have a rough time distinguishing
>> > those types of names.
>> > I feel that is no reason for you to get personal with me.
>> >
>> > After reading your intellectual regurgitations in here,
>> > I just figured that you were one of those sexaully confused type of
>> > folk trying to prove your manlihood.
>> >
>> > I will try not to make that mistake again.....
>> >
>> >>Keep your advice, bubba.
>> >>I don't take advice from sub-par idiots..
>> >
>> > That's too bad sweetheart.....
>> > You seemed like a nice understanding little girl.
>> > :-)
>> >
>> He certainly whines like one.
>>
>> I think the Yomamma bin Crawdaden method of operant conditioning is
>> working on her too. I might start graphing her posts to see which kind
>> of posting regimen we should put her on: variable interval, or variable
>> ratio. My hypothesis would be that if you wait variable lengths of time
>> between spanking her, the plot will indicate a 45 degree angle of
>> responses on the graph with her posts coming slightly more frequently
>> closer to the time she expects the ultimate reward of you responding to
>> her rants. As time passes, the posts will become fast and furious and
>> drop off slightly right after her spanking reward (this really depends
>> on the interval). On the other hand, if you reply randomly with no
>> regard to time (variable ratio), we will get a much steeper curve of
>> continuous responses (such as we are seeing now), and no drop off in
>> responses. The really funny part will be when you finally tire of
>> delivering the spank, and simply let the behaviour extinguish it's self.
>> There will be a furious amount of responses until the halfwit realizes
>> that responding any further will be futile and will never deliver the
>> sought after spanking and she will go away.
>>
>> I look forward to publishing my results in the "annals of usenet
>> kookery"
>> --
>> For you don't count the dead
>> When God's on your side.
>> -Bob Dylan
>


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Please stop flooding alt.2600, Peter.

On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 08:04:30 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> wrote:

>"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred@catholic.org> wrote in message
>news:PM000391E899BF1739@dhcppc1.home.com...
>> Yomamma bin Crawdaden wrote:
>> > On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:10:18 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> > managed to type:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"Yomamma bin Crawdaden" <Crawdad@bayou.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:3be540cf.529128696@news.earthlink.net...
>> >>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:11:42 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> >>> managed to type:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >> I take it that you are finally realizing you are bringing a
>> > pointed
>> >>> >> stick to a gunfight. If you use your kill filters judiciously,
>> > you will
>> >>> >> never see me post in mn.general again. That way you can be sure
>> > you
>> >>> >> won't see any of my posts if I inadveretantly crosspost, or even
>> > decide
>> >>> >> I find discussions about snowblowers, chainsaws and autoparts
>> >>> >> interesting and want to participate in an unmoderated public
>> > forum like
>> >>> >> mn.general.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >You seem to be confused..
>> >>> > But then, you do live in fantasy-land, don't you..
>> >>> >I had to go blow my nose..
>> >>> > And that is a much more important task than twaking a twit..
>> >>> >But I'm back know.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >By the way, you are NOT "inadvertantly crossposting"
>> >>> >You are doing it with full knowledge, because I have been removing
>> >>> >mn.general for the last half-dozen of my posts..
>> >>> >
>> >>> >As to discussions about chansaws and autoparts..
>> >>> > That hasn't occured recently (like the last 3 years) in
>> > mn.general
>> >>> >So you are really, really confused..
>> >>> >Obviously, sci.psychology.psychotherapy, has not been much help
>> > for you
>> >>> >"issues", (that's "problems" for more normal people)...
>> >>> >
>> >>> >But feel free to continue fantasizing about being some kind of
>> > mean
>> >>> >"guslinger"
>> >>> >But do tell is when you actually will graduate to water-pistols..
>> >>> > Well be sure to throw a party for you to celebrate..
>> >
>> >>> Mr. Salley,
>> >>>
>> >>> <snip>
>> >>
>> >>Wow..
>> >> An idiot who gives advice, who can't even copy 4 letters withouyt
>> > adding
>> >>2 more.
>> >
>> > That's not how to spell your name Sally?
>> >
>> > Do you spell it with a "y" or "ie"
>> >
>> > You see,
>> > I am just a dumb crustacean and have a rough time distinguishing
>> > those types of names.
>> > I feel that is no reason for you to get personal with me.
>> >
>> > After reading your intellectual regurgitations in here,
>> > I just figured that you were one of those sexaully confused type of
>> > folk trying to prove your manlihood.
>> >
>> > I will try not to make that mistake again.....
>> >
>> >>Keep your advice, bubba.
>> >>I don't take advice from sub-par idiots..
>> >
>> > That's too bad sweetheart.....
>> > You seemed like a nice understanding little girl.
>> > :-)
>> >
>> He certainly whines like one.
>>
>> I think the Yomamma bin Crawdaden method of operant conditioning is
>> working on her too. I might start graphing her posts to see which kind
>> of posting regimen we should put her on: variable interval, or variable
>> ratio. My hypothesis would be that if you wait variable lengths of time
>> between spanking her, the plot will indicate a 45 degree angle of
>> responses on the graph with her posts coming slightly more frequently
>> closer to the time she expects the ultimate reward of you responding to
>> her rants. As time passes, the posts will become fast and furious and
>> drop off slightly right after her spanking reward (this really depends
>> on the interval). On the other hand, if you reply randomly with no
>> regard to time (variable ratio), we will get a much steeper curve of
>> continuous responses (such as we are seeing now), and no drop off in
>> responses. The really funny part will be when you finally tire of
>> delivering the spank, and simply let the behaviour extinguish it's self.
>> There will be a furious amount of responses until the halfwit realizes
>> that responding any further will be futile and will never deliver the
>> sought after spanking and she will go away.
>>
>> I look forward to publishing my results in the "annals of usenet
>> kookery"
>> --
>> For you don't count the dead
>> When God's on your side.
>> -Bob Dylan
>


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Gov. Jesse Ventura, did your research on Renee Jesnesss tdurn up facts on
her husband, Brad Jesness?1???????11???????1
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On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:53:26 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> wrote:

>
>"Yomamma bin Crawdaden" <Crawdad@bayou.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 21:41:06 GMT, Rev Turd Fredericks
>> <turdfred@catholic.org> managed to type:
>>
>> >Yomamma bin Crawdaden wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 05:49:48 GMT, Rev Turd Fredericks
>> >> <turdfred@catholic.org> managed to type:
>> >>
>> >>>Yomamma bin Crawdaden wrote:
>> >>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:10:18 -0600, "Peter S. Saly"
>
>
>Ha !
> Looks like my Pavlovian trainee is back..
> He sees or imagines "Saly" in a post..
> And he can't help himself..
> Yap, Yap, Yap.
> Like a good little Pavlovian cur..
> It'a all in the training...
>
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 05:09:16 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> wrote:

>
>"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred@catholic.org> wrote in message
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>> Peter S. Saly wrote:
>> >
>> > "Yomamma bin Crawdaden" <Crawdad@bayou.com> wrote in message
>> > news:3bfeb8aa.690893312@news.earthlink.net...
>> >> On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:48:17 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Ha !
>> > Looks like my Pavlovian trainee is back..
>> > He sees or imagines "Saly" in a post..
>> > And he can't help himself..
>> > Yap, Yap, Yap.
>> > Like a good little Pavlovian cur..
>> > It'a all in the training...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Peter S. Saly wrote:
>> >
>> > "Yomamma bin Crawdaden" <Crawdad@bayou.com> wrote in message
>> > news:3bfdb89f.690882372@news.earthlink.net...
>> >> On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:36:43 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Ha !
>> > Looks like my Pavlovian trainee is back..
>> > He sees or imagines "Saly" in a post..
>> > And he can't help himself..
>> > Yap, Yap, Yap.
>> > Like a good little Pavlovian cur..
>> > It'a all in the training...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Reposted for the benefit of mn.general Sally forgot to crosspost this
>> one.
>> --
>
>The only person crossposting here is you, you turd...
>


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On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:47:01 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com> wrote:

>"ThePsyko" <thepsyko@itookmyprozac.com> wrote in message
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>> On the hallowed day of Tue, 30 Oct 2001 22:49:41 GMT, Iceman
>> <c0ld0n3@yahoo.com> slapped out:
>>
>> >On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:04:26 -0600, "Peter S. Saly" <Peter@Saly.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>Sadly the police are completely under-equipped to cope with such cases
>even
>> >>if it's the victim who files the complaint..
>> >>Also, in Minneapolis, the unit responsible for such stalking issues, is
>the
>> >>-crimes unit, which will give it's priorites and ressources to more
>> >>immediate and serious cases..
>> >>The Feebs, are the same way, except if they feel that there is a
>potential
>> >>for them to gain some publicity. Otherwise it's a lesser priority than
>> >>closing unsolved files about communists during McCarthy..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Peter, do yourself a favor, go to www.lart.com/brad which will forward
>> >you to a temp site and read the FAQS on BJ before you get too far into
>> >this thing.
>> >
>> >You are making yourself look like an ass defending something you do
>> >not know about.
>> >
>> >Unless you are a friend of BJ's, then you would be an ASS for sure.
>> >
>> >Your call.
>> >
>> >And by the way, your governor and the Mn School Board should really
>> >look into this thing in a serious way. Her decisions could be clouded
>> >by her association with BJ.
>> >
>> >For instance, she voted for passage of non-credentialed people to be
>> >allowed in certain areas of support for the schools. Like social
>> >counseling, etc. If this opened a path for BJ to "practice" his skills
>> >on your kids I would be suspect, given his bias' and slandering ways,
>> >plus threats he sends in the email.
>>
>> THIS is scary.. can you email me that info?
>>
>
>Please don't feed the kooks..
>
>


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