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****  T sees the episodes before anyone else in the group ****


(T)Sing along with me children! Ding Dong the Ding Bat's Gone!! Or in 
laywomen's jargon, Janelle was nowhere to be seen tonight. Good 
riddance ya big sissy, thumb-sucking baby...uh sorry. L is rubbing 
off on me. ;) 

(T)Well my reaction to tonight's show mostly went like this:

(T)"HUH?"

(T)"Oooh baby!" (This is in response to a Bobby part. L,D, you'll 
need sedatives to make it thru this one!")

(T)"What the *hell*?" 

(T)"Um, didn't Meg Ryan play this part once?"

(T)"Uh, did they like, skip a few episodes or somethin'?"

(L)>>>You're looking for continuity? God, woman! Be happy
they had Reiger in a later ep.<<<

(T)"Awwww!"  (this is a Lindstrom/Conaway scene) ;) 

(T)"Huh?"

(T)"What the **hell**??"

(T)"Who is she???*

(T)"Uh, why is he dressed that way? Just to show off the flight suit?"

(T)"Oh! Oh Bobby! Yes! Yes! Bobby, more, oh yeah, that's it Bobby, oh, ooh, 
oooooh, yessss, right there! Oh yes! Lick me, whip me, make me write bad 
checks. Oh, you wicked boy!" (um, this is at a Bobby part) 

(T)"Is this a weak attempt to show angst between the team members??"

(L)>>>Is there any other kind but weak on this show? And don't get mad. 
I like the actors but the direction and writing need work.<<<

(T)"Are these writers somehow sucking our most private fantasies from our 
minds??? Should we start wearing those tin-foil hats just to be on the 
safe side??? Are you kidding?? -I love seeing our fantasies right here 
on the tv screen!!!  

(T)"Mmmm! Mmmpphh! Slurph!" (This is the part where T tried to kiss the 
wound better on Bobby's *most* gorgeous belly but the damned tv screen 
kept getting the way!) Pphit!  Damn static electricity!  >;p~~~ 

(T)"Huh??????"

(T)"Linsdtrom, do something to your hair, like please!"

(T)"*snort* yeah, like I believe *that*!"

(T)"Aww, AJ, you big sexy Marine, you! You nuzzle up to me and start 
pressin' those soft kisses against my neck and throat like that, and the 
next rude thing you'll be doin' is trying to talk with my tongue in your 
sweet mouth, soldier."  (oh yeah, this is during *one* of the AJ 
and Annie scenes) ;) 

(T)"some more snorts, a few groans"

(T)"Why is Bobby being so mean and distant?"

(T)"Awww, they're gonna explore Bobby's daddy leaving" *sniff*

(T)"Ooh, yeah, you get in Honey's face, AJ, you tell him!" 

(T)"HUH?"

(T)"Where did he come from?"
(L)>>>Outer space.<<<

(T)"WHere did she come from?"
(L)>>>Melrose Place.<<<

(T)"Why is he telling *her* that?"
(L)>>>Exposition.<<<

(T)"Did I miss something again?" 

(T)"Oh, AJ! Yeah, oh yes! Put your big ol' hand out and pull *my* face 
around for one of those manly kisses. Oh yes! You can kiss me and make 
me like it any ol' day. Lordy, I need some air!!!"

(T)"Dammit!!! I wanna see a close up! I wanna see some tongues!!!! 
(L)>>>Then go back and watch him eat his Peanut Butter
and Jelly sandwhich in "Company Town". <<<

(T)Oh well, it still gave me girly shivers, not like the neck nuzzling 
mind you, but some serious girly shivers just the same." 


(T)The plot (and I use that term very, very loosely) confused and 
disoriented me; but it allowed for some really good  
scenes. "Since I think this was the main purpose of the "plot" (I'll 
use that word for lack of anything better) I suppose in it's own 
convoluted way that it was a success." T the philosopher writes. 

(T)The team gathers together to support Lindstrom. 
(L)>>>Awwwww.....<<<

(T)AJ really melts down. 
(L)>>>And so did you, obviously.<<<

(T)Bobby retreats due to his "daddy" issues, shows us some surfer tummy, 
and is adopted by an older, attractive woman that he spends the weekend 
with then opens his psyche up to . 
"Look what I found on the beach, Aunt L, can I keep him???" 
(K)>>>Daddy issues or not..I can' NOT believe that Bobby is deserting Annalisa b/c
he might lose her? Will SOMEBODY knock the boy upside the head PLEASE??!!! <<<

(T)Denzell, I mean, Wendell solves the case and saves Lindstrom with some help from 
Kelly. 
(L)>>>Denzell? *swoon* Wendell? Oh. Okay I guess. Not Denzell but he'll do.<<<
(K)>>>Denzell..Ohhh Yummy...Wendell..YUMMIER!! hehehe hahah..LOL ok..<<<

(T)This scene gives the phrase 'pissing contest' a whole new meaning. 
(L)>>>Do they whip 'em out and have Lindstrom go get the 
measuring tape from the Huey? <<<

(T)(This is where there was much moaning and sounds of agony from 
me, but it passes fairly quickly and moves us gently towards *THE KISS*, 
(K)>>>ANOTHER ONE?! AJ is sure making up for lost time.<<<

(T)then on to Honey's sweet, sweet, face when he finds out who his weekend 
fling turns out to be.) 


>>>> after MUCH begging, we got more details from T about AJ and Anni<<<<

(T)AJ showed up at Anni's door earlier to show some support for her cause 
they're taking her sword, dontchaknow, and she's all upset about that. Well 
she just slams the door in his face cause sometimes we women just wanna wail
and blow snot and have red noses all alone. Soooo, sometime later we
see Anni walking along a rocky beach and AJ comes walking up to her. They do a
little chat. He asks if she's okay. She narrows her eyes at him and
says "Why are you bein' so nice to me? You're usually not this nice to
me." So he mouths off something about the team yadda yadda, I didn't
write it down word for word cause I was thinking ho hum...Then Anni hugs
him, real friendly like, which is really sort of bull but hey, they're
setting up the scene dontchaknow and she's hurtin' so I can go along.
THEN...while she's hugging him and thinking 'this is real nice, real
friendly, we're pals'...Then we see AJ's face and he's looking
so...touched. Then AJ starts nuzzling a little, then nuzzling a little
more, then kissing the side of her neck..  (In a sea of bad
scenes this one was very, well done. I want this director to do the
inevitable bedroom scene.) Anyway so Lindstrom jumps back like she's
been bit by a copperhead. And AJ starts stutTng and they back away
from each other, and say this can't happen, and AJ stumbles backwards
and leaves and that's that. So I'm thinking, yeah, good move, Anni, you 
know it can't happen - plus this keeps suckers for romance like me hanging 
on another pitiful week. SO then skip lots of stuff, AND at the end, AJ 
walks into the dark hangar bay and finds Anni sitting on a box, she likes the 
quiet she says, (seems like they've both left a congratulatory party but 
they're in fatigues and t-shirts) and he sits down, and they make some
meaningless, awkward conversation and some silly, embarrased, fake
laughing. And THEN AJ drops the facade of nonsense, gets serious and
says, 'These feelings aren't going to go away are they?' And Anni says,
"What feelings?" but she knows he knows and worse he knows that she
knows that he knows. And then she says, "No, they're not going away,
but we'll have to learn to ignore them, what else can we do?" or
something like that and THEN.....Our luscious ol' AJ says something
like "This."  And he reaches his big ol' hand up and put it on her 
cheek and pulls her to him for a right sizzlin' little kiss. (This 
was the only kiss, if you don't count the neck nuzzling). And that's 
how it ends..... I hate to admit I was totally suckered in by 
this romance and sex. I like to think I'm better than this, but 
apparently I'm not. ;) It wasn't 90210ish, I promise. It was sweet, and 
AJ is very sweet in this one. Very, very sweet. :)

>>>>  And, after everyone (but D) had seen it <<<<


(J)Okay, Bill Kelly got to kick some psychological arse here....the man has
style, one has to admit. Poor Hodges, she was RIGHT, Anni would NEVER be
free of the accusation if they didn't clear her, but I think she needed to
say that to Anni UP FRONT, not behind it. I know she was trying to be
objective, but "I believe you, but we HAVE to investigate this by the book"
goes a long way. 

(J)Bobby and whatsername...NO I don't think so. It shows an extraordinary lack
of common sense on the Light Cdrs part to behave that way. For God's sake a
LCDR is the equivalent of a Major, he's a Lt. That's not reasonable for her
not to tell him who she was. I dont like her one bit. L you dont have
to worry about your fanfic, cause I think she's stupid, and not good enough
for Bobby. He had the RIGHT to make a choice about her, based on KNOWING
what she does, and who she was. And even though he is not in her chain of
command, and technically they COULD fraternise, with her auditing Hodges,
it was a potential conflict of interest. ICK. At least Malibu Betsey is NOT
a conflict like that. 

(J)Wendell, you go man, NICE the way he was SO sure he could find something,
and kept looking even when Bobby was being idiot number one. I loved the
look on his face when he realised he cussed in front of Hodges. I loved his
reaction when she agreed with him. 

(J)AJ and Anni shippers REJOICE, it has happened. GOD he looks so in love with
her. He's so romantic and silly, I love it. I love him. But then I'm a
charter member of SalGal's anonymous, so ...we all know I want it. Wrap
that big hand around MY neck and pull ME in for a smooch darling.

(J)We knew she was innocent, but still, Kelly should have INSISTED that
whatsisname the other Green Beret tell the court he thought he saw someone
behind Lindstrom...we KNEW she had to be innocent, and I'm sorry, but that
jammed rifle thing...that was so contrived by that jerk, I mean, I could
have believed him better if he'd said, she heard something and fired and
only THEN realised she'd gotten the wrong guy, or that there were maybe
rebels around there, or anything but that idiocy about the rifle jamming.
Especially since I think that the others would have noticed if she was
wildfiring...it would have been pretty obvious even to them, also, she'd
only gone a clip and a partial. IF she'd been wildfiring, the second clip
would have been empty, she would have had to reload a SECOND time, why
didn't her lawyer catch that, where was Sarah MacKenzie when she was needed
in Pensacola. I mean she and Rabb would have said, OH her rifle jammed, did
it? Then how come she only used a clip and a partial? She had reloaded
before she supposedly shot your man right? Well then, if she did that, why
were there bullets left?

(K)First off..I CAN NOT stand BOBBY!!! I think he was DROPEd on his head as a
child!!! AJ should have not beet down his door he should have beat HIM down!!
How do you do that to a team mate of yours that your take an oath to protect
and give your life for if you have too???!! Bobby and Lt Commander..ok her
name is Crystal Chappel and she used to be on Days of our LIves and One Life
to Live..and she's no better on them than she was last night!! it was stupid
and a waste of film this story line...they should have used it better for more
scense between Anni and AJ...b/c it just was STUPID!! Sorry T.!! And when
he's spilling he guts to her about having a problem with a coworker...he just
sorta failed to mention WHY the coworker was riding him..B/C STUID IDIOT
abandoned one of his TEAM!!!

(K)Anni...I loved her in this I think it should alot about her and her true
character...Kathryn REALLY did a great job with this..I wanted to cry with her
when they took her sword! SHe was just fantastic

(K)I cracked up when Wendell realized he had just cussed in front of
Hodges..heheh..too funny.

(K)HOdges..OH MY GAWD..I have a new name for the women..SHARPIE!!!!!! She looked
like one( and for those of you who don't know what they are..they are the
wrinkle dogs!!) can you say Tripple CHIN?!!! She just totally didn't have to
do that to anni. J's been in the army so I Guess she can say yea or nay on
this..but I feel like Hodges did it b/c ANni was a women. Like if it had been
AJ or any of the guys the charges would have been dropped..but b/c she was a
women and the cloud would follow her..so she had to do what was best for ANni.
What would Hodges have done if this hadn't gone the way it did? If they had
found enough reason to go one with the court martial? then what? Could she
live with herself knowing that b/c she needed to make her look clean or a
point that She destroyed anni's life and career?

(K)AJ I LOVE this MAN!! HE was SOO there for anni throughout the WHOLE thing..I
mean wendell was there for her too..but he was more the I"m trying to bail you
out thing where..AJ was just there for her moral support and stuff. The look
on his face when they took her sword away..he knew she needed to cry..she just
didn't want to do it in front of him...and on her first court date...Tell me
WHY is it when women feel uncomfortbale..they fix or dust off the guys
shoulders??? She does it to AJ there..and That LT COMMANDER..does it to Bobby?
OK...anyways..THE BEACH..oh MOTHER OF GAWD....T..I love you babe..but this
just wasn't given justice..let my mind go nuts for awhile..BUT OH GOD!!!!! He
is SOO inlove with her that it's down right funny...When he helps her up on
the rock and then when she asks him why he's being so nice to her...and she
gives him a hug...I think she needed it more than he did..but the look on his
face when she did it..I don't think it was more him being touched as him
realizing how BAD she's really hurting! then..Nuzzle..Nuzzle..anni looking
like..OK..what the heck..Is it just me or did the girl look PETRIFIED??? and
then when she pulls away..he puts his hands on her hips..heheh..actually if
you look close enough..he puts them in her belt loops HUMM??? Then her dodging
of the head thing..and they both looked VERY uncomfortable..

(K)....I didn't like how Kelly invited Hodges to the O club..I didn't like how
HOdges Hung anni out there for public display and scrutiny..and then Distanced
herself..and really wasn't TOO helpful with Kelly and the investigation. If
you're going to do this for her own good..then she should have adleast been
there for her! I DO like however how anni stood up for herself to hodges..tell
her that is this the part where she's supposed to be thankful on how things
were handled..and then couldn't go on..did anyone else notice hodges
face..from a smile..to I don't know..first she looked pissed..then when anni
was walking out..she kinda smiled..you know?

(K)I didn't like how Kristoph St John(the other JAG officer) questioned Wendell
that if he'd die for her as a team..he'd also be wiling to lie to protect
her.>SO out of line..


(K)T..I was laughing my ASS off when I now know what you mean by pissing
contest..heheh..HAHHA >LOL..I was dying laughing and the kids I was
babysitting for were looking at me like I had LOST my mind.....but they got
him...they should have shown her reaction to listening..I mean..they just
cleared her...!!! AND why was HODges there??!!

(K)THE KISS...OH MOTHER OF GOD!!! I was dying...they are SOO SEXY
together...still kinda playful...like I know this girl who flies these
things..maybe she can give us a ride...and is this a private party..then when
she thanks him...the YADDA YADDA...and then the KISS..ahhh..I WAS DYING...it
wasn't like..inhaling her face..but sweet little kisses b/c if you watch
REALLY close( don't ask how many times I"v done this) you can see him like
just giving her little pecks .....would be nice to know what happens AFTER The
kiss:)

(K)and you can NOT tell me that the rest of the team didn't get suspisous when
she left her OWN party? HELLO?? 
and ANni has a mommy huh..heheh...don't forget you brothers birthday
dead..heheh..well adleast we saw her bedroom..AND I"M GOING TO KILL BOBBY!!


*****  IRC chat (10 p.m. EST on Sundays) after Trials... episode  *****

(K) this is my prob with it she made a gender issue out of it
(M) She HAD to make a gender issue of it
(K) then hit the easy road when things got BAD...she still could have supported her
(M) She HAD to make a gender issue of it
(J) IT WAS A GENDER ISSUE
(M) You don't get anywhere in this world (yet) as a female unless you're willing 
to work 200% harder than the men
(J) she DID support her
(J) especiallY IN THE MARINES -- last to integrate -- last to co-train -- last to accept
(K) how did she support her?
(J) Hodges had to do her major share in order to get things done
(D) Where are they going to go from here though?
(J) you think she HAD to let Bill and Wendell FLY to NC on Marine money
(J) you think she HAD to give them all those resources
(J) nope -- she did NOT
(M) She was doing her best to help
(J) you think she HAD to get those secret reports for Kelly
(M) She couldn't just do it -- then it would be that she was playing favorites!
(D) She wasn't just covering herself then?
(J) accused of driving the investigation - and covering it up
(J) NO she couldnt just GET EM -- but she DID make sure HE COULD
(M) She was covering herself, yes.  You gotta
(M) She was covering her people, though, as well
(K) she already put her in for investagation..she should have been helping them clear her
(M) She was protecting the rest of the team -- And she was helping them clear her
(J) Cause, they'd say, look Becca insists on investigation but now she dont let us 
investigate
(J) she's all over this -- she wont let it go -- what's she covering up
(J) she's just pretending to want a REAL investigation -- but its her GIRL
(J) so she ent gonna let us find the TRUTH -- so she backed off
(J) let KELLY DO what he was SUPPOSED TO -- which is clear her
(J) and give him WAY more resources than he had a right to ask for -- you KNOW
(K) she may have had HER reasons.. but what would she have done if things had gone bad, 
and she wasn't cleared
(D) But it sounds like Lindstrom feels a little let down
(M) Yes, Anni was let down
(J) but thats lindstroms problem
(K) She was very let down and I think it's going to be very interesting to see how this 
plays out
(J) I hate to say this but if ANNI COULD NOT BE CLEARED then there was NO way she was 
going to stay a Marine
(J) sorry -- a DEAD witness is very hard to impeach -- although Kelly SHOULD have INSISTED
(J) that Beret tell the court he thought he might have seen one of his people there
(K) so basically b/c Hodges had to prove a point..and innocent women who was being framed 
would hve been destroyed.
(K) Gotta love the military!
(J) NO
(J) because if she had NOT been tried -- Hodges was RIGHT -- for the rest of her career
(J) even if it was A MAN for gods' sake -- they would have for SURE
(D) Yeah, it's often considered "ok" for guys to bend the rules, but not the "girls" cause 
then everyone says "you're going easy on her because she's a woman"
(J) said, see, we CANNOT trust those sea Dragons -- they are EXPERIMENTAL
(J) and the damned General did NOT want em in the first place
(K) Ok..well I STILL want to slap BOBBY!!!
(J) Hodges is already on the block
(D) Mmmm I see your point J
* D wants to slap Bobby too
(M) Now, Bobby is another story
(J) AND hodges MIGHT just realise that she SHOULD
(J) have one of those ... on the beach out of uniform chats to Anni
(J) about the REALITIES of being a Sea Dragon and a FEMALE int he spohtlight
(M) But Hodges did what she needed to do -- and I think Anni figured that out at the end
(K) Jessa you do have a point..but she still could have given her alittle more support. or 
at least explained her actions..
(D) They gotta patch it up
(T) Hey, the show's gotta have some angst, I like it that Bobby's a little bad :) 
(J) yes, but NOT until later -- her reactions were perfect
(M) Bobby's not bad -- just stupid.  Inconsistent.  Immature.
(K) BAD??? no he's a coward!
(J) if ANNI had known where Hodges stood she'd have reacted different
(J) and Hodges and Anni would be back on the block
(J) let anni have a week to think adn she'll see it
(J) (sorry I LIKE becca)
(K) AJ didn't need too pound the door in..Aj should have pounded his HEAD in!
(D) Don't you think that's a ittle...harsh... K?
(K) HELL NO..this is the 2nd time he's let the team out to dry for his OWN selfish purpose
* D just said she wanted to slap Bobby, but not why... 
(K) that's NOT a leader
(M) D -- or where, right?  
(K) LOL!!
(T) Wanting to hurt my Bobby, you bad, bad girl!
(T) He's got these daddy isssues dontchaknow?
(K) T would YOU want to take orders from someone that checks out on you when things get tuff.
(K) or when he WANTS something more than the team..

(ahem... at this point, discussion moved away from the episode and on to *other* things.)
(later, we returned for a short while to the topic under discussion)

(T) oh, and I have another gripe about this show too
(L) I liked Anni/AJ better than I liked Bobby.  :(  The whole trial thing I coulda 
done without.
(K) I can't see the board but the cut is like a deep wound..you can see it's starting to 
bleed again
(T) These prisoners? They're supposed to look this good after 11 years in a prison 
camp doing hard labor?
(M) And didn't one of them get out alive?  Wouldn't he have had something to say about 
Seaver leaving them?
(T) I mean the guy that got killed just looked like he'd been camping  
(L) Did we talk about how the bullet had to go all the way through him so that they 
couldn't do a ballistics test?
(K) Anni -- Let AJ in!
(L) K.... she can't go leaning on AJ all the time. Besides it would just prove his 
theory on women in the military to be correct.  God knows AJ doesn't need to be right.
(T) actuallly I don't think she'd have ever hugged a fellow marine 
(K) AJ doesn't need to be right..but we ALL need people now and then! dotchaknow
(T) What a way to set yourself up for a fall if you were in her shoes 
(K) that's why I was shocked she did it...
(T) Yeah, K, ho hum, and then.......nuzzling!

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