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Guidelines for spending time

with young llamas


It should go without saying, but somehow it escapes people anyway -- those who don't understand adult llamas and the basics of both good and dangerous llama behavior are ill-suited to be mentors to a young llama. The first and best piece of advice we can give you is: BEFORE you attempt follow these guidelines with young llamas, take at least a couple of years to learn about llamas with the guidance of two trained adults and the support of their responsible sellers. Any young llamas in your future will be glad for the expertise you will have gained, and they will also benefit greatly from the stable guidance and example of your resident, well-trained first llamas.


Why mentor a young llama?

Humans and llamas coexist in a domesticated social environment. Just as we define the llamas' role in our lives, so too our presence shapes our role in their lives. Our role depends on how we shape it -- each and every time we interact with any llama, particularly young, impressionable ones. If we don't define ourselves clearly, then our llamas will do it for us. The most acceptable goal for both human and llama is for humans to be unquestionably respected without being frightening.

Having a domestic companion animal that is afraid of humans is, well, a contradiction. Having a nervous beef steer is inconvenient when it comes time for, say, medical treatment. Having a chronically difficult-to-catch llama isn't what humans really want, even if many humans do accept it. Llamas do not have to be afraid of humans for us to be safe, but their early interactions with humans do need to be structured carefully to be sure that two important goals (comfort around us and respect for us) can be achieved. This becomes possible when humans have learned how to shape their role by providing to the cria through what might be best called mentoring: teaching correct social behavior around and toward humans.

I've heard handling young llamas makes them crazy -- is that true?

Based on an incredible amount of misinformation and lack of understanding aggressive behavior in llamas (not to mention about llamas in general), some recommend a "play it safe" policy by avoiding handling crias or by minimizing contact when handling is absolutely necessary (such as in bottle feeding a sick cria or one who has lost it's mother). This does prevent llamas from becoming comfortable with us during the critical months when they divide their world into llamas, dangerous not-llamas and not-dangerous not-llamas. It does not, however, prevent all kinds of problems. Later handling (and the llama's individual inherited tendencies) can still result in aggression directed at humans.

There's no doubt that cria handling (or not handling) has historically received the most comment and controversy. Although correct socialization for unweaned crias is certainly very important, an even more crucial age is from 9 to 16 months of age. We have found that even with crias who have not been handled much prior to this point, incorrect socialization during this time -- especially coupled with the wrong dispositional tendencies -- results in the llama making the rules and progressing swiftly to levels of misdirected territorial aggression similar to those generally associated with improperly handled crias. During this phase (9-16 months), they begin to start testing just what they can do with the world and what the world can do for them. They start looking for ways to put their boredom to use. And . . . the 'ol hormones start kicking in, for some llamas, sooner and/or more than for others.

How do I get young llamas to understand what I want?

In order to learn how to be a successful mentor to crias in terms that they can easily understand, the most important initial step is to pay attention to acceptable and unacceptable behavior in llama society, and the consequences thereof. Sit down for a day and watch a group of adults and crias interact. You will likely witness quite a bit of corrective responses for improper entry into another's space directed at crias (particularly older crias) by the adult llamas. You can learn which behaviors are acknowledged and which ones are not, and how that is done.

A cria (particularly a younger cria) entering an adult's space may not be acknowledged unless that entry is accompanied by other actions (pushing, rubbing, mouthing or attempting to nurse, for example). Adult llamas certainly don't bend over a cria who is being submissive and looking for a free lunch, look him/her in the eyes and say "My what a CUTE little cria you are!" When the cria is new, some adults may blow in it's nose, but just as many adults don't, and most inspect the newcomer on their own terms and for as long as they want, and baby has to just tolerate it.

Notice that adults (other than mother) certainly don't hum back. When a cria walks over into another female's space (i.e., not it's mother) and says, "I'm a baby, you got any milk for me? I can smell it! Give me some milk, now!" (a warbling hum), the response is more than likely to be translatable as "I'm NOT your mother, and if you stick your nose any closer, I'll turn it so green you won't be able to eat for hours!" Certainly the adult female doesn't flip her tail over, put her neck down, and squeal ecstatically (a mixed message no matter how you look at it). What must a cria think when a human does something that seems like submission combined with squealing? Certainly the conclusion is not that humans are respectable adults!

The following rules, guidelines, and lessons will help you make clear to a young llama just where humans fit into their lives. As a mentor, you will be the primary source of information about humans and the primary force that shapes young llamas' view of us, and thus, you are the primary guardian of their futures.


Rules for llamas

 

First, some guidelines that tell crias and weanlings, in clear llama language, that humans are dominant to llamas and thus are to be respected:

 

1. NO UNINVITED PHYSICAL CONTACT and NO PHYSICAL CONTACT THAT MIMICS FIGHTING MANEUVERS. That includes bumping, touching, rubbing up against you, pushing into you, and wrapping necks around human anatomy. There are many different ways to reinforce this social rule. Watch the adult llamas and they will teach you.

This also includes running up to you without stopping at the edge of your space. A llama should consider about six feet around your body to be strictly "by invitation only," just as he or she does for other respected adult llamas.

 

2. NO MOUTHING (past one or two weeks old). During the first two weeks, all a cria is doing is following an instinct to discover what places milk might come from. They know that certain types of places are worth targeting, but they don't yet know that there's only ONE milk bar. We've found that not getting any milk is a much stronger deterrent than being pushed away or slapped -- so we don't discipline them unless they bite down hard, and we don't foolishly offer our noses for sacrifice during this exploratory period.

After the second week, however, we react to all mouthing just as another adult llama would -- with NO tolerance.

 

3. ALL LLAMAS ARE TO MOVE OUT OF THE WAY when humans need to pass through their space. A companion rule for us is that we don't walk around llamas, and we even deliberately walk through where young llamas are standing. They don't get the idea that they can do it to us, but rather the opposite: Their place is to move away; ours is to go where we please.

Within a herd of grazing animals, dominance is reinforced daily without obvious fighting in just this way. A fight breaks out only if a formerly subordinate animal decides he or she is no longer interested in moving to accommodate a dominant animal. Your interaction within a llama herd is constantly shaping the llamas' concept of your position in relationship to them whether you are aware of it or not.

Young llamas (often yearling and two-year-old males) in a "testing phase" will often block a human's path (or that of another llama). This can happen just as often with llamas who were previously nervous enough of humans that they stayed away and never learning the lesson of who-gets-to-chose-where-they-go. This is a good example of how a llama can develop behavioral problems without having been handled as a youngster, and the humans' response to this will quickly shape the llama's future beliefs about whether humans can and/or should be kept out of his territory.

If the human (or llama) who was blocked goes around, the next step for the tester will be to move at the now-subordinate-being when that being is not moving (similar to what we do with the youngsters to establish our role, above). Whether that is successful or not, the final step for the male tester to establish his territory is to charge the really dense being when it is stupid enough to wander into the testing llama's real estate -- the "testing llama" has just become a territorial adult.

 

4. NO FIDDLING WITH HUMANS' BODIES. That definitely includes playing with shoes and boots -- an action that is a prelude to fighting behavior.

There are acceptable and unacceptable ways to get a human's attention. This kind of behavior occurs more frequently when young llamas expect you to feed them and thus are hanging around with you, but can happen at other times, or can stem just as much from boredom as from the expectation that you are smart and can provide access to food they can't get on their own.

Bored young llamas (overwhelmingly males) often pass time fiddling with another animate being. Normally this is a male age-mate, and the ear or neck mouthing, head-ducking, neck-pushing, and such leads to what is commonly recognized as an adolescent wresting match. The problem comes when the llama is bored (or wants your attention, or for something like feeding time to HURRY UP AND GET HERE) and YOU, the human, become the focus of his fiddling.

Our experience is that people who do NOT have any particularly friendly or touchable llamas find it really exciting when a bold young male comes up and "spends time with them just out in the field." However, unstructured time is precisely what should NOT be spent with those llamas. When a yearling starts "fiddling," he is soundly corrected and we leave (on our own terms) to remove temptation. If we MUST stay in that pasture for some reason, we stay alert for a possible second transgression, which usually merits a bit of stall time (a "time out" for the llama).

For bored adolescent llamas, structured interaction is more productive. Deliberately approaching a llama that likes to fiddle and scratching him (without mimicking any llama fiddling or fighting behavior) works well for casual interactions. Advancing lessons such as walks are also good. This may not, however, be a good opportunity for "foot" lessons, unless the llama is short-tied. Picking up an adolescent male llama's feet can seem very much like you are toying with him and want to wrestle. Having him short-tied keeps you safe and short-circuits his instincts.

Another technique to address and short-circuit "fiddling" is to do some fiddling of your own. Don't use any actions that mimic fighting (such as foot handling) or do anything that results in the llama adopting any postures that are part of fighting (such as head down and neck across you). When your bored young llama comes up, invade the llama's space by stepping towards him, and do something that IS attention but won't lead to problem behaviors and postures (see above for examples). Rubbing cheeks or muzzles with both hands or rubbing/scratching the llama vigorously under the chin can all work well. The end result should be that the llama tires of being fiddled with (without progression to wrestling) and walks away -- not afraid of you, but understanding that you are not the answer to his boredom.

 

5. NO THREATENING HUMANS. Crias don't usually threaten humans, and when they do, we have found a clear familial pattern (including father-to-cria links, eliminating environmental influence as the cause in those cases). This points to a primarily genetic cause (and a fine reason for timely neutering).

We usually see threats emerging from yearlings and two-year-olds (although a few precocious weanlings get started early). It is important, though, to understand that some llamas cluck and posture out of fear. Clucking is a good clue that this llama is feeling defensive, not aggressive. Incorrect diagnosis (that the llama is being aggressive) can escalate that fear and may lead to an attack.

Usually threatening starts around feeding time -- particularly if "feeding time" means "special food." Llamas who threaten in order to get something do it precisely because they got what they wanted that way in the past. Llamas don't get anywhere making forceful displays at a bale wagon, because it just sits there instead of moving in a way that suggests it might fork over the grub, and so they don't threaten the bale wagon -- or the barn door -- if that's what's standing between them and getting the chow. But they do threaten other llamas to get them to leave a disputed portion of food, and they quickly transfer this successful behavior to those SLOW humans who just can't feed super-impatient adolescents fast enough to suit them.

Realize that a young llama may adopt a subtle spit-threat posture as he or she waits for the food. There may be a passing thought of spitting out of impatience. If your back is turned, this can occur without you being aware of what is going on, and when you hand out the chow as you normally would, the llama gradually begins to think that his or her mini-threat had something to do with that. It is the subtle ways humans often reinforce the llamas' behavior and the llamas' resulting view that humans can be controlled to their personal benefit that causes aggression to finally erupt.

If you are feeding in such a way that you CAN correct bad behavior and reinforce good behavior, and if you are structuring feeding in a way that makes competition between llamas impossible, threats rarely occur. When they do, you will know that the llama in question is out of line and the threat can be dealt with very clearly. As an example, two different yearling males have spat (out of impatience) at Gwen so far. They were both promptly removed from their feeding area by the wool and went without their pellets that night. Neither llama has so much as given any sign that they would consider trying THAT (or any other misconduct) again -- it didn't work at all, and the clear negative consequences were understood by the llamas very well.


Rules for humans

 

The next group of guidelines also give clear messages in llama language, but the rules are for us, not for the llamas:

 

1. LOOK FOR BROKEN RULES AND METE OUT CORRECTION PROMPTLY AND CONSISTENTLY. You are the only one who can teach llamas the rules-about-humans in the foregoing section and make sure they are understood and followed.

Correction must occur regardless of supposed intent (or lack thereof), or the body language that accompanies them. Accidents do happen, but in llama-llama interactions, intent is never considered by the receiving party. All transgressions are consistently met with the same reaction. Young llamas who accidentally bump you and are not corrected might expect to be able to bump you in the future. A young llama who accidentally bumps an adult llama immediately learns to be more careful at all times around adults. Your goal is to demand that same level of respect.

Some people have been told that a baby that lays it's tail over it's back will grow up to be aggressive. Not so. Submission is acknowledgment that we are in charge, and approaching with submissive posturing is OK -- as long as none of the other rules are broken. Breaking rules is the important issue.

Be aware that sometimes a cria (or more often, a weanling) uses the submissive posture as a deception in order to gain access to something they want. The difference is that those llamas also break a rule, usually entering our space and/or pushing. When a llama enters your or another llama's space with a submissive posture accompanied by a warbling hum, the attempted communication translates as "See, I'm a baby llama and the rules say you can't hurt me, so now you have to give me what I want...yeaaaaaaaah." In this instance, submissive posturing is used as part of manipulation (and is not itself the problem), and we correct the actual transgression immediately.

 

2. AVOID BENDING OVER TO CRIAS after they are comfortable with you. Bending over makes a scared or concerned llama more at ease because it is easily read by the llama as a submissive (rather than aggressive) posture. This can be a good tool, but once it's purpose has been accomplished, we generally avoid this because we need to convey that humans, like adult llamas, stand up and are to be respected.

That doesn't mean you can't bend over in any way, shape, or form, however. Bending over to sniff noses need not look like submission to the cria. Be careful not to bend over so far that you hold your back parallel to the ground, and make them reach UP to you.

 

3. A companion rule is that IF YOU MUST BEND OVER TO DO A NORMAL TASK (like shoveling manure, or picking up something off the ground), ALWAYS WATCH OUT.

First, bending over or squatting (facing away) can trigger a male cria's emerging sexual instincts and suddenly make him decide we are interested in becoming pregnant. This is a normal mistake for a young male who feels new hormonal urges and isn't sure yet where to direct them (this behavior can be directed at dogs and other animals as well). Swift, sound correction will mean this normal mistake occurs only once.

Second, bending over to shovel manure can trigger one (or both) of two instincts in adolescent males: the human appears submissive, and the human is (GASP) interfering with ... TERRITORIAL MARKING! We've never had a llama we raised take exception to us removing manure, but a number of rehabs have hysterics over the notion and attack; many normal males have a tizzy fit and run up to mark the spot as soon as we've departed with the wheelbarrow. We ALWAYS watch out when scooping poop -- better safe than sorry.

 

4. DO NOT LEAN AWAY FROM ANY LLAMA. A llama who comes close enough to you that you feel like leaning away has just invaded your space. If you step back or lean away, you are sending a clear message of submission (or fear). That encourages more spatial encroachment. Instead, lean at the llama, and if s/he's young, lean OVER (or perhaps more explicitly, "tower" over) him/her as well. That puts the llama on the defensive, and the lesson will be to exercise caution the next time s/he's around you, the tall, fearless one.


Important lessons for humans to
teach to young llamas

 

There are two lessons that tell crias and weanlings what they can expect from humans, and that these things won't harm them and can be tolerated. An important difference between these lessons and the foregoing guidelines is that the lessons cannot be put into easy-to-understand llama language -- the young llama must put aside fear to discover that our predator-like actions are not, in fact, at all predatory. An important benefit of teaching these lessons is that as the young llama accepts these, s/he is not only becoming less scared of us, but more respectful of our position in llama-human interactions. And the younger these lessons are learned, the safer for all concerned. When possible, we begin these lessons at birth (see "blow drying," below).

 

Lesson One: Struggling and aggressive attempts to escape when restrained don't work. Crias who learn they CAN get away have some information that is very valuable, but not for us! The lesson we want to teach is actually "DO stand still" (not "DON'T struggle") -- and the desired result (going free) happens whenever the cria stands still. This isn't a very clear lesson, so we expect it to take a number of repetitions, and we don't expect very lengthy "stands" from young crias (their attention spans are very short) or previously unhandled llamas (their fear is too great).

 

Lesson Two: Touching is something that humans JUST DO, and it's OK. This is actually a multiphase, ongoing lesson that you will teach or reinforce every time you handle a young llama. Making touching a part of every interaction is an important way to both retain desensitization and to have them come to expect, even like, this type of behavior from us. Young llamas learn that allowing touching reinforces us in a way that they like (our behavior becomes predictable, not scary), and that allowing it usually brings other good things, such as attention or progressing through the steps that lead to food (i.e., going in the pen, being haltered, being tied, being given pellets in a feeder).

Many young crias will, with proper socialization, become comfortable with approaching you. Correct reinforcement for this is to send a message that both humans and llama will get something out of the interaction: "If you want to approach the human, you get to say 'hi,' but you are going to get a touching lesson. It is not going to be bad or too long, but it is a tradeoff that must be tolerated."

For older crias who are OK with the touching, the lesson becomes, "Humans get to approach me and I will stand still 'cuz that's how it works." Once they realize that you are after them, most crias will present their side and put their ears in the "conflict" position -- neither forward not back, and indicating that their intellect is in conflict with their instincts. This is good -- it says they respect your position (instinct says "be careful") as well as your wishes (brain says "I am expected to stay right here").

The touching lessons reveal when a young llama is reacting to instinctive triggers (such as defending legs) and needs careful work to form a learned response: human touching is different from other-llama touching. This further reinforces our position as somebody not to be challenged, but to cooperate with.


A final key ingredient

 

Not all male llamas are stud quality. Moreover, there are far too many male llamas that can be considered "stud quality" to justify keeping them all intact, even if they are equally excellent. In all likelihood, their sisters (and some brothers) are already contributing to the gene pool. There is no advantage given to the species when individual llamas are bred just because it can be done.

Although it is certainly not true that castration is necessary to make safe any llama who was handled at a young age, it is also not true that a male llama is happier or more valuable if he is intact -- rather the opposite. Timely castration is a key ingredient to having a llama friend you can enjoy with the least amount of stress, and a llama who is fun to be around is far more valuable than one that requires constant attention and discipline (and hormonally-driven instincts have a way of keeping even the best-trained male llama consistently testing his environment and his handler). Spaying results in similarly positive characteristics. For llamas with inherited tendencies that make them anything less than super-easy to handle when intact, you not only do yourself and the individual llama a favor by neutering them, but when you remove them from the gene pool, you take a worthy step toward preserving "the very best of the breed."


Blow-drying newborns
for optimum touch acclimation

 

We've found that the best possible foundation for ensuring that llamas are comfortable being touched by humans is to blow-dry the newborn cria with an electric hair dryer. Drying the cria saves its energy (resulting in an average 1/2 to 1 pound weight gain the first day instead of the normal 1/2 to 1 pound weight loss). It allows you an opportunity to observe the cria for difficulties and defects. And it presents your touch as a very positive experience.

First, remove all of the membrane from the cria. Take the cria to the area where you will blow-dry (remember to not block the mother's view of her baby -- keep the cria between you and her so that she can be assured of its safety). Next, blow every part of the cria dry, including the legs and feet. Use your hands to move and fluff the soaked fiber, and to evaluate dryness. Be very careful around the cria's eyes, and be sure you don't burn delicate, relatively unprotected areas such as the ears and scent glands. If your bare hands are not comfortable, you can bet that the cria is also uncomfortable. Thorough blow-drying (including interruptions) usually takes about an hour.

We initially allow crias to get up and wander around as they chose, bringing them back to the blow-drying area when they get tired and kush (or plop!). However, when the cria is nearly dry, we make sure that we hold the cria down firmly at least once, preventing it from getting up, until the cria itself chooses to cease struggling. We've found this to be an important lesson for the cria -- that we are FAR stronger and not worth fighting with (eventually to become an illusion, to be sure, but one that is necessary for mutual safety) -- and that omission of this lesson now makes it that much harder and exponentially more traumatic when it must be taught later in some fashion.

After blow drying, no further touching lessons seem to be necessary, and in fact don't seem to have any advantage at all. We instead leave the cria with its mother (usually the cria is close to nursing, but hasn't actually done so) and check up on the pair occasionally for awhile, greeting the cria briefly if it shows interest in us.

It is important to remember that crias who have been blown dry won't retain their initial lesson very well unless you continue to reinforce it through their various maturation stages. At about three days, crias' flight response kicks in, and you will have to work for a week or so to break through their instinctive distrust. Blow-dried crias respond much more quickly and completely at this stage.

Continued leg handling is important, even for blow-dried crias. If an older male cria or male weanling has agemates that wrestle with him and try to bite his legs, you will find that touch acceptance backslides dramatically. Again, a week or so of careful work on your part will quickly restore the young llama's trust in your actions. A young llama who was not blow-dried as a cria or whose leg-handling lessons were ignored will take much more time because he must not only put aside instinct, but learn a lesson that is dramatically counter to everything he's experienced thus far.

Don't despair if a young llama wasn't blown dry as a cria. It is certainly possible to achieve touching acceptance and instill respect for human strength with a reasonably good outcome. However, a good foundation is always preferable, and it's one more thing that separates the dedicated llama breeders (who produce a few, well-adjusted llamas) from the cria mills (who produce large numbers of wild-eyed, frightened weanlings).


Food for thought . . .

 

Instead of taking on the expense and risks of breeding -- remember that you can experience and enjoy working with young llamas by fostering and training youngsters through Llama RescueNet. With that experience under your belt, you can later birth and raising crias from rescued llamas who were pregnant at the time of intake.

Llama RescueNet's foster care and remedial training options allow you to try before you buy: You will have first right to adopt the animals you work with, but any that don't "click" with you will then have the advantage of being able to find a suitable home thanks to your training work and an established network of devoted volunteers. Those who have tried the breeding gamble agree that picking out a llama who is already in existence works a lot better than breeding, waiting and hoping for a year for your own baby, only to find that it doesn't really have the personality, looks, or functional features that you'd planned on.

And best of all, you'll experience the unparalleled satisfaction of having turned a young llama's life from a cruel dead-end of misery and fear into a world of hope and promise.

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