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A. The Posts Explained
B. News Servers and Known Problems
B.1. Internet Service Providers
B.2. Supplemental Newsfeeds (Subscription):
B.3. Supplemental Newsfeeds (Free):
B.4. NNTP-Based:
C. Newsreaders
C.1. Windows :
C.1.a. Windows yEnc
C.2. Macintosh:
C.3. Other
C.4. What You Have Now:
C.5. Automatic Downloading

A. The Posts Explained

Q: Instead of pictures, I see lines of text (letters, numbers, and punctuation) - what's wrong?
A: It means that your news reader doesn't have the capability to interpret the particular form of encoding used.
Binary pictures are formed of 8-bit quantities ("Bytes"); unfortunately, the Internet was originally designed to transmit text, and supports 7-bit transfers (with 7 bits - 128 possible codes - you can transmit all of the alphabet - upper and lower case - digits, and a lot of punctuation marks - including spaces, tabs, etc.; since some of these have special meaning to news readers, only 6 bits of printable, graphic characters are available).
Thus, in order to get 8-bit bytes through the internet, you have to chop them into 6-bit pieces in some fashion. The way this is done is called the encoding; common encoding schemes are UUENCODE, MIME, and yEnc. Each one has different rules (e.g., UUENCODE has each line start with the letter "M", and all lines are the same length).
You don't need to know the details of the encoding (if you insist, do a Google search - for example: uuencode); you just need to know that if you get a lot of text instead of a picture, your reader doesn't support the form of encoding used.
Q: What do those fractions in the subject header mean?
A: Large binaries need to be split up into multiple, linked parts for posting. The fractions indicate the part number. For instance 5/32 is part 5 of a 32-part file. You need all 32 parts available on your server to successfully download the file. You might see multimedia files posted this way. Now and then, you might even see a picture posted in this manner, although it is undesirable. Picture binary files are NORMALLY single-part, thus they all should say (1/1). Note: Many automatic picture-downloading newsreaders need this (1/1) in each message header in order for them to recognize it as a picture post and download it. They will not download a multi-part file.
Q: What does "killfile" mean?
A: All Email and news-group messages have a "From:" field in the header.
Most Email/News readers have a "kill file" or "Kill filter" (list) that you an add a variety of "From:" addresses to; the reader will then ignore (throw away) all subsequent messages from that source. The purpose (originally): to "eat" recurrent spam.
Now days, it's used to discard ALL messages from someone you don't like.
For example, if you use Outlook Express - select the menu Tools⇒Message Rules⇒Blocked Senders List, and fill in offending addresses.

B. News Servers and Known Problems

If your server is missing posts, consider getting a different ISP or subscribing to a supplemental newsfeed. Excellent newsfeed means getting everything that is posted within 24 hours of its posting. Good retention is at least a week, often longer. Yes, there really are such servers! A good ISP's news server will have good retention.

Here's what we know about some ISPs. If you're using a large provider you think is great, but it's not listed, we'd be happy to pass along that information and add it to the list, especially for ISPs outside the U.S. Please Email me.

A list of news-only services follow the ISPs. Take a look at: " AnchorDudes Usenet Newsgroup Server FAQ", which compares usenet news group servers by speed, retention, and completion. {Fettucini}

Some other sites to check:

Check home pages for up-to-date pricing, some give a free trial ...{Sj}

B.1. Internet Service Providers (ISPs):

From news.cnet.com

N.Y. attorney general forces ISPs to curb Usenet access

Posted by Declan McCullagh
New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo announced on Tuesday that Verizon Communications, Time Warner Cable, and Sprint would "shut down major sources of online child pornography."
What Cuomo didn't say is that his agreement with broadband providers means that they will broadly curb customers' access to Usenet--the venerable pre-Web home of some 100,000 discussion groups, only a handful of which contain illegal material.
However, there are still lots of options, depending on how much you d/l per month.

A note on ISPs. Access may vary from location to location. Busy signals, dropped connections due to timeouts, and server congestion vary from place to place. So shop around and take advantage of free trial offers.

B.2. Supplemental Newsfeeds (Subscription):

For up-to-date information, go to Newsadmin, which provides comprehensive newsgroup provider comparisons, newsreader software reviews, and an interesting collection of realtime access statistics related to the Usenet community! (NewsAdmin is a free resource that is provided to online users in hopes that they can use the information to make informed choices when selecting newsgroup providers and software.)

Don't be fooled by services boasting high numbers of newsgroups carried, since thousands of groups out there are not even used. They are empty or just full of spam.

There are other pay news servers, but we do not have the experiences to recommend them. Please give input if you have it. Here are some:

B.3. Supplemental Newsfeeds (Free):

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C. Newsreaders

Bad tools make extra work. Good tools make extra leisure. Downloading pictures from these newsgroups is supposed to be fun, so get the best tools for it and stop missing out on what your present software can't handle.

Here's what we know about some newsreaders to help you choose. All of these applications will automatically download and decode picture files and most are available for FREE download from the usual software sites. Most have some limits that will be removed when registered (paid for).

There is a newsgroup devoted to News Readers (news:news.software.readers): - ask there if you're having a problem and can't find the solution. (It's a good idea to preface the subject with the name of the reader, e.g. Netscape, Dialog, Xnews, etc.)

C.1. Windows:

C.1.a. Windows yEnc

Although all of the targeted newsgroups stronngly discourage the use of yEnc, many people acess other newsgroups without such restrictions; so, in order to enjoy compatability, here ae sone news readers that support yEnc:

C.2. Macintosh:

C.3. Other:

For other Operating Systems such as Solaris, Linuxes, BeOS and other more obscure OSes, a freeware GNU news and web browser named Mozilla (and it's successor Thunderbird) exists. Mozilla has been ported to many many different OSes, and the source code is available for free here.

Mozilla under windows and BeOS 5.1.1 is stable and does an adequate job of both posting and viewing binary images.
{Bill Benobo}

Look Here - it has a host of yEnc programs for all sort of systems, windows, linux, apple etc. {Sundance}

An excellent newsreader for binaries is pan. It works on Linux, Mac, Windows and others.
It even comes with most versions of Linux. I've been using this for a long time and it's extremely usable and reliable on Linux. On Windows, the interface feels a bit more clunky.
{Holden McGroin}

C.4. What You Have Now:

Mozilla Thunderbird, MS Internet News, and MS Outlook Express - The newsreaders that came with your computer, operating system, or Web browser have improved greatly in the past couple of years, but still fall far short of the applications listed above for downloading pictures. Get a real, picture-dedicated newsreader client. Even the freeware apps outperform any of these. If you think one of these is good, you will be blown away by the performance of any of the newsreaders listed in the section above. These apps are still good for general use and posting chat, so keep one of these or Agent or Gravity in addition to your picture-dedicated newsreader.

Q: When I try to download a binary, my newsreader tells me there's no attachment, but I know there is!
A: Then it's probably MIME base 64 (or yEnc) encoded, and you are probably using FreeAgent or another newsreader that won't decode it. When you learn to recognize mime posts before downloading, your best bet would be to have an alternate free newsreader to use for downloading those. Don't try to use an off-line decoder.
Q: I use Xnews, which distinguishes between complete and incomplete multi-part posts. Lately I've been seeing more and more incomplete multi-part posts, which causes me to suspect that individual message are being lost as well. Why?
A: Blame the increasing popularity of multi-media (music and video files), and the increasing availability of Broadband connections. More and more people are posting immense files to USENET (e.g, people in the newage MP3 newsgroup regularly post a single MP3 file containing a full one-hour program of Public Radio's Music From The Hearts of Space program, which typically runs about 70 Megabytes!!); many ISPs no longer have the capability to hold this quantity of information (e.g., AT&T said that it had been receiving 4 TERABYTES of USENET traffic per DAY - before discontinuing all binary news groups!).
If you're not getting all the parts of a file, it may not be your ISP at fault. Remember that postings are forwarded from one ISP to another; if one ISP loses a part, it can't be forwarded to your ISP. All you can do is tell your ISP when you're seeing an increase in incomplete messages, so the ISP can try to get alternate feeds for USENET.
Q: I have WebTV What about me?
A: At this time you do not have an option as far as newsreaders or services. Microsoft has it in the works to offer IE5 and Outlook Express in a bundled package with Windows CE that they may make the operating system for WebTV sometime in the future. This would allow you to use real software. But for now, if you want to be a picture collector, get a real computer.

SPECIAL NOTE TO WEBTVERS: As requested in the answer above, do not request that posters e-mail files to you. If you want to be a real picture collector, get a real computer and the necessary software. Otherwise, live within the limitations of your chosen hardware and software. A possible solution - e-mail (forward) the pictures to YOURSELF from the newsgroup!

Q: Can I use another newsreader with AOL?
A: No and yes. You CANNOT use it to access AOL's news server, but you CAN subscribe to a supplemental news service (or get a real ISP) and connect to that.
Q: Can I use another newsreader with MSN?
A: Yes, but MSN requires the use of a proprietary encrypted password authentication method to access their news servers. Some newsreaders support this and some do not.
Q: Can I get a virus by downloading from the newsgroups?
A: Sure, but not from pictures.
NO LONGER TRUE!!!!!!!!!! Thanks to Microsoft, you now can! Here's a link to more info.
{Holden McGroin}
Q: How can I avoid viruses?
A: Don't download any executables from the picture newsgroups (.exe, .com, .dll, .inf, or .bat files, or zip archives containing them). First of all, they don't belong there, so assume the poster is either ignorant or a wise guy. You don't want to entrust your computer to either type! At the beginning of this FAQ are URLs for reliable download sites for all the recommended software. Invariably, the safest places to download from are the author's Web or ftp site, or major software sites. Second best are other reputable host sites. The LEAST desirable are Usenet newsgroups.
An additonal list of file suffices with potential viruses include .VBX .VBS .VBA .XLS .XLA .XLT .DOT .BAS .FRM .CLS .WLL and .OCX . (Thanks to Frank Mabrey for this additonal list.}
Q: How do people get viruses from zip files?
A: By flying blind. A zip archive cannot give you a virus, itself. It can, however, contain filetypes (listed above) which can. Get a good zip extraction utility such as WinZip, and learn to use it conservatively. Do not let it automatically open files after unzipping. Perform a virus check on executables before opening them. If a virus is present, the only way you could activate it is by executing the file.

AOLers: Click on Members | Preferences | Download and remove the checkmarks from "Automatically decompress files at signoff" and "Delete zip files after decompression." Stay in control of your own computer, otherwise you may lose track of whatever executables you've extracted, as well as where they came from and what they are.

For more information about viruses, read alt.comp.virus. Their FAQs are also at:
http://www.webworlds.co.uk/dharley/
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/computer-virus/
http://www.macvirus.com/reference/

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C.5 Automatic Downloading

Someone serious about collecting images might want to obtain a copy of sbnews news robot or picture agent. Both of these programs will automatically download every jpg, gif or post with "whatever you want" or "whoever you want" from any or many newsgroups. This saves hours of downloading one at a time. Picture agent's "pending" feature let's you look ahead and delete any pics that you don't want or need. Now to sort all of these pics you need ACDSee32. this allows you to see all of the images in a directory in thumbnail form. you can rip through want you downloaded; sorting, deleting, renaming, etc. check it out. it is also a must have for the serious collector.
{"Watty Wattel"}

Q: I use Netscape - can I download multi-part files?
A: Downloading a Multi-part File Using Netscape:

Not directly. If all else fails:
Go to Alladin and pick your system and download and install Alladin Expander. When it asks for configuration information, make sure that you enable UUE.

In Netscape, highlight all the parts of the file (click on the FIRST line, shift-click on the LAST line to highlight all lines between First and Last, inclusive; it will start downloading the first part immediately upon clicking on it, but you can cancel that by clicking on STOP - it will remain selected). Select the "File" menu and select "save message as". It will show an arbitrary name, such as "untitled.txt"; re-name it something, but with a "UUE" extension (e.g., "untitled.uue").

Note - the individual articles MUST be in order, and can't contain unrelated articles. If they've arrived out-of-order, click on the "subject" column of the browser to alphabetize the headers.

Once it's fully loaded, just double-click on it to wake up the program. It will be unzipped & decoded w/ the filename the poster gave it. So it doesn't really matter what name you gave it, but use a UUE extension. A little extra work than Outlook Express, but it CAN be done in Netscape.

NOTE: The same technique will work to download a series of pictures, provided that they are encoded using UUE compression (mime-64 encoding won't work because of a defect in Expander). This allows you to go off and do something else while downloading (eating, running errands, etc all come to mind).

NOTE: Expander Version 6.0 is reported to have some problem unzipping files generated in this way. Older version don't, so - if necessary - you can go to Alladin's FTP site, pick your system (pc, mac, etc.), then Expander, and then download an older version (such as V5).

Another alternative is to download UUDeview (either from USA or Germany ) and use it just as described above. UUDeview has the advantage that it can decode not only multi-part messages, but also mime-64 and yEnc encoded messages, both single and multi-part. Unfortunately, it does have the defect that all file names are converted to lower-case.


Q: I use outlook express; how about me?
A: Since you are using outlook express, you can combine the split files as following:
  1. click on the first message
  2. then ctrl-click on the last message (or shift-click if there are more than 2 messages)
  3. all messages should be highlighted
  4. right click on the highlighted messages
  5. from pop-up menu, choose Combine and Decode
  6. messages will be listed in another popup window
  7. confirm that the messages are in the right order (1,2, 3...)
  8. if any replies are intermingled, just move them to the bottom
  9. click OK
  10. combined image will be displayed in another window
  11. you can save it from there
hope this helps {ClothesHorse}