Is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of Tongues of God or the Devil?

OVERVIEW IS THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH THE EVIDENCE OF TONGUES

OF GOD OR OF THE DEVIL?

By Dennis Schmidt 11/2006

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This paper discusses are tongues of the Devil?" with scripture clearly teaching that the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with tongues as evidence is from God. The paper is a response to a book by Dr. Yvon Geoffrion "Are Tongues of the Devil?" All scriptures are from the King James' version Bible.

INDUCTIVE COMMENTS:

THEME: God is moving in the last days in His direction. The Christian can move with Him or be left behind. This has always been the problem for the religious person not to follow what clearly is supported by the scriptures. The religious person is under bondage to his teaching or experience & not open to God's word or work.

The Holy Spirit baptism with tongues & power came for the apostles to do miracles, witness, knowledge, guidance, boldness, power over Satan, ETC. This is needed just as much today as when the apostles were here. That is why in these latter days God has restored the Holy Spirit baptism with tongues and power.

Mark 16:17-18

PURPOSE: These gifts are needed today as much as they were needed by the apostles. Paul meets people who may not have understand about Jesus & ask them if they had the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Paul considered this experience to be very important. This is just as true today. Paul knew they received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit because they spoke with tongues.

Acts 19:2-6

KEY VERSE: This passage has multiple fulfillments i.e. at Pentecost & at the latter days. The tongue’ prophesy is not in Joel. At Pentecost the Holy Spirit baptism occurred with tongues to prove they had it.

Joel 2:27-32 Afterward means a second fulfillment.

Acts 2:1, 3-6, 16-21 2 comings

WHO: God written mostly by Bible authors Luke, John, and Paul

TO WHOM: Elected Christians

WHAT: God is moving in the last days in His direction. The Christian can move with Him or be left behind. This has always been the problem for the religious person not to follow what clearly is supported by the scriptures. The religious person is under bondage to his teaching or experience & not open to God's word or work.

Mark 16:17-18

WHY: God started a new dispensation of working with the Gentiles. The Holy Spirit verified the experience by using the believer's voice to speak a foreign language or tongues.

Acts 10:44-46

WAY:

Acts 2:1, 3-6

Acts 19:2-6

WHEREAS: Tongues are a gift from God as shown in (Acts 8:20; 10:45; 11:17) & not unbeliever punishments.

Acts 8:19-20

Acts 10:44-46

Acts 11:15-18

WHERE: Earth

WHEN: The Holy Spirit baptism with tongues & power came for the apostles to do miracles, witness, knowledge, guidance, boldness, power over Satan, ETC. This is needed just as much today as when the apostles were here. That is why in these latter days God has restored the Holy Spirit baptism with tongues and power.

Matthew 3:11 The tongues on their heads were like fire.

John 7:37-39 How do they know that the Holy Spirit has come - by the tongues and by the power.

These gifts are needed today as much as they were needed by the apostles. Paul meets people who may not of understand about Jesus & ask them if they had the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Paul consisted this experience to be very important. This is just as true today. Paul knew they received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit because they spoke with tongues.

Acts 19:2-6

WHILE: This same scripture states knowledge shall vanish as well as tongues shall cease. If the knowledge (for example of the Lord Jesus) vanish no person would be saved. When is the perfect to come? The perfect is the return of the Lord Jesus & not the Bible as a book which man both interprets wrong & Bible translations have errors in them.

1 Corinthians 13:8-10 "Perfect is come" is the return of the Lord Jesus.

No doctrine should be based on only one scripture since this could lead to error. The baptized for the dead scripture is used by Mormons. The true Church of Jesus Christ does not follow this. Likewise the tongues should cease/done away doctrine should not be based on this one scripture.

1 Corinthians 15:29 Mormons made this into a false doctrine.

PAPER OUTLINE:

I) OLD TESTAMENT - THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOREIGN TONGUES:

II) THIS IS FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE:

III) DISPENSATION: SALVATION AT THE TIME OF JESUS IS TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE & NOT TO THE GENTILES:

IV) WHY DID GOD CHOOSE ISRAEL?:

V) WHAT ABOUT TONGUES WITH THE JOEL PROPHECY?:

VI) GOD TOLD THEM TO WAIT FOR HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM WITH FIRE:

VII) HOW TO KNOW YOU HAVE THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT? - TONGUE & POWER ARE INCLUDED WITH THE BAPTISM:

VIII) EXAMPLES IN THE BOOK OF ACTS OF HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM WITH TONGUES AS A "GIFT" ARE SHOWN:

IX) GOD'S REVELATION REVEALED IN HIS TIMING IN THE END TIMES:

X) HOLY SPIRIT EXPERIENCES & BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH TONGUES ARE NOT THE SAME EVENTS:

XI) TWO DIFFERENT TONGUE GIFTS DISCUSSED IN BAPTISM IN THE HOLY SPIRIT - CHURCH & INDIVIDUAL:

XII) WHAT ABOUT MARK 16:17-18 SCRIPTURES EXPERIENCES:

XIII) WHAT ABOUT TONGUES - CEASE & DONE AWAY?:

XIV) WITH THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT COMES THE OTHER GIFTS (POWER, HEALING, MIRACLES, PROPHECY, ETC.):

XV) ALL THESE SCRIPTURES SUPPORT BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH TONGUES:

I) OLD TESTAMENT - THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOREIGN TONGUES:

These verses address a focus on law and not God. It has nothing to do with foreign nations and tongues. God did punish Judah and Israel for their sins by sending foreign nations to defect them.

1 Corinthians 14:21-22 "In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. {22} Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe."

II) THIS IS FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE:

Isaiah 28:9-16

Isaiah 28:11 is fulfilled by 1 Corinthians 14:21. Israel was focused on law (verses 10 & 13) & not on God (verse 16). God wants His people to be obedient to the law, & trust God. They missed God.

III) DISPENSATION: SALVATION AT THE TIME OF JESUS IS TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE & NOT TO THE GENTILES:

God was working with only the Jews in most of the Old Testament and Gentiles who had to become Jews to enter in during that dispensation.

Matthew 10:5-7 Jesus command.

Matthew 4:15-17 Promise in the Old Testament.

John 4:22 Jesus made this statement to the non Jew.

Matthew 15:22-26 Jesus example for gentile shows that it was not easy for gentiles to come in at that time.

Luke 24:47 Preach 1st to Jews, then outward to others.

Romans 11:11-12, 15-16, 25-27 God works with mainly Gentiles during the present dispensation period. After the fullness of the Gentiles come in, God will work again with the people of Israel in the latter times.

IV) WHY DID GOD CHOOSE ISRAEL?:

Israel was to bless the earth with God's knowledge but they failed to be obedient. True, but God was working with Israel in that dispensation and not all the peoples of the world. As shown up above Jesus failed the test also, since He came mainly to the Jewish people.

V) WHAT ABOUT TONGUES WITH THE JOEL PROPHECY?:

This passage has multiple fulfillments i.e. at Pentecost & at the latter days. The tongue’ prophesy is not in Joel. At Pentecost the Holy Spirit baptism occurred with tongues to prove they had it.

Joel 2:27-32 Afterward means a second fulfillment.

Acts 2:1, 3-6, 16-21 2 comings

VI) GOD TOLD THEM TO WAIT FOR HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM WITH FIRE:

Matthew 3:11 The tongues on their heads were like fire.

John 7:37-39 How do they know that the Holy Spirit has come - by the tongues and by the power.

Acts 1:4-5

VII) HOW TO KNOW YOU HAVE THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT? - TONGUE & POWER ARE INCLUDED WITH THE BAPTISM:

God started a new dispensation of working with the Gentiles. The Holy Spirit verified the experience by using the believer's voice to speak a foreign language or tongues.

Acts 10:44-46

VIII) EXAMPLES IN THE BOOK OF ACTS OF HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM WITH TONGUES AS A "GIFT" ARE SHOWN:

Tongues are a gift from God as shown in (Acts 8:20; 10:45; 11:17) & not unbeliever punishments.

Acts 8:19-20

Acts 10:44-46

Acts 11:15-18

IX) GOD'S REVELATION REVEALED IN HIS TIMING IN THE END TIMES:

In the last 1800's the rapture teaching came forward. The background of this teaching came from questionable Christian sources like the modern (restored) Baptism of the Holy Spirit teaching with tongues. God chose to reveal His doctrine in the end times in His way. The rapture doctrine is nonetheless taught as a key teaching in the Bible believing church. Any doctrine God reveals must agree with scriptures as the rapture & Baptism of the Holy Spirit with tongues teachings do.

Daniel 12:8-10

John 12:13-16

Acts 1:6-8

I believe this also applies to the end days since even today the gospel has not gone to whole earth.

1 Peter 1:11-12

Angels & man do not understand the way God does things & His timing.

Revelation 10:4 Even in the end times God will seal things to a latter time.

X) HOLY SPIRIT EXPERIENCES & BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH TONGUES ARE NOT THE SAME EVENTS:

John 7:39 Jesus ascension

John 14:16-17 Dwells with you is a Spirit Filling. Dwells in you is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

John 20:22-23 Not the Baptism of the Holy Spirit that came Pentecost.

Acts 4:31

Galatians 5:22-23 The Christian filled.

Ephesians 5:18-20 This is a Christian filled with the Spirit.

XI) TWO DIFFERENT TONGUE GIFTS DISCUSSED IN BAPTISM IN THE HOLY SPIRIT - CHURCH & INDIVIDUAL: Gifts for the church versus a gift for the individual:

1 Corinthians 12:4-7, 10, 28, 30 Not all people who speak with tongues have the tongues ministry gift to the Church.

These are not all the same gifts as some are administrations, operations, manifestations, ministries gifts to the church. Everyone with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit will speak with tongues. This is the individual's own prayer language between him and God. This is not the same as a church ministry of tongues and interpretation of tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:2-5, 14-15, 18, 39 Because of correct use of tongues by the flesh of Christians - sin, in the Church, some people do not have the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with tongues. This does not means the Church can not teach her members correct usage of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of tongues.

XII) WHAT ABOUT MARK 16:17-18 SCRIPTURES EXPERIENCES:

The Bible states not to tempt the Lord. Paul was bit by a poison viper which fulfill these verses.

Mark 16:17-18

Luke 4:12 This is from the Deuteronomy scripture, but applies in Mark 16 & Acts 28 as well.

Deuteronomy 6:16

Acts 28:3-6 God prevented Satan's death attempt.

XIII) WHAT ABOUT TONGUES - CEASE & DONE AWAY?:

This same scripture states knowledge shall vanish as well as tongues shall cease. If the knowledge (for example of the Lord Jesus) vanish no person would be saved. When is the perfect to come? The perfect is the return of the Lord Jesus & not the Bible as a book which man both interprets wrong & Bible translations have errors in them.

1 Corinthians 13:8-10 "Perfect is come" is the return of the Lord Jesus.

1 Corinthians 15:29 Mormons made this into a false doctrine.

XIV) WITH THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT COMES THE OTHER GIFTS (POWER, HEALING, MIRACLES, PROPHECY, ETC.):

Acts 19:2-6

XV) ALL THESE SCRIPTURES SUPPORT BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH TONGUES:

God is moving in the last days in His direction. The Christian can move with Him or be left behind. This has always been the problem for the religious person not to follow what clearly is supported by the scriptures. The religious person is under bondage to his teaching or experience & not open to God's word or work.

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