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Updated:  04 Oct 2008, 23:55  ET
(Created 12 Aug 2000)
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  I-R 60-ton Demo

A new type of locomotive!
Ingersoll-Rand 1925 Demonstrator #9681
(later CNJ #1000)
(ALCo builders photo S-1484 - source uncertain;
possibly from 1980s AAR flyer)

 

ALCo-GE-IR BOXCAB

Oil-Electric ("Diesel") Locomotives

(American Locomotive Company - General Electric - Ingersoll-Rand)


Benoit Xmas 2001
(Photo courtesy M. Benoit 2001 - all rights reserved)
This, with GE shovelnose honorary boxcabs, from Sr. Marcelo Benoit, in Uruguay, says it all!

Here's a severe crop and doctoring of his 2002 picture
 : (two passenger trains in the threatened Montevideo Central Station);
nice chassis (and that boxcab-like #916 thing isn't bad, either)!

Benoit Xmas 2002
(Cropped and altered from photo courtesy M. Benoit 2002 - all rights reserved)


BOXCABS INDEX PAGE

This site has now been visited times since the counter was installed.


INDEX to Boxcabs Pages:

note-rt.gif - this is a page to balance the load and leave more room for boxcab information on each boxcab page.

  Boxcab Help.

A service for boxcab afficionados, posting reasonable questions (at my sole discretion).

  There are now seventy (70) BOXCAB pages:

Here are some representative photos of early ALCo-GE-IR boxcab locos, ca. 1936, cropped from photos in TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA No. 43 (Lackawanna #3001*, Erie #20, Ingersoll-Rand #90*, Reading #50, and Union Carbide #11*:

TS43 LW #3001 TS43 Erie #20 TS43 IR #90 TS43 Reading #50 TS43 UC #11
(Photos ca. 1936, cropped from TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA No. 43)
{* - Note that the first, third, and last all survive.}

Click here for information (below) about the late John F. Campbell's
ALCO / General Electric / Ingersoll-Rand (AGEIR) Diesel-Electric Locomotives" Site.   new.gif (18 Jan 06)


  This Boxcab Index Page.
  The main ALCo-GE-IR Boxcabs Page - the BOXCABS "home" page,

which, in itself, now has six (6) continuation pages,
  AGEIR Focus Page, AGEIR details from the "home" page,
and an original GE Demo Brochure.
  Continuation Page 4, overflow from the "home" page,
  Survivor Boxcabs (roster of those boxcabs still around)
      [Please note that there were a lot of broken or non-existant links on this page;
      this has been corrected.  If I missed any, please let me know],

  now with a SURVIVOR BOXCAB LOCATIONS MAP, and
  Survivor Boxcabs Notes (separated out from roster page),
  Pre-production Survivor Boxcab Dan Patch #100 (the oldest survivor), [revised URL - 20 Aug 02]
  Survivor Boxcab CNJ #1000 (the first sold, with detailed photos),
      [I added three pages of detailed photos of the CNJ #1000 (120 photos)
          complete with fully-linked indices with captions.]
  Survivor Boxcab B&O #1/195/8000 (the third unit sold, the second 60-tonner),
 
Survivor Boxcab Foley Bros. Construction #110-1
      (at 108 tons, the only surviving double-engined unit),
      [I added a page of detailed photos of Foley Bros. #110-1 (35 photos),
          complete with a fully-linked index with captions.]
  Survivor Boxcab I.R. #90,
  Survivor Boxcab I.R. #91 (ex-DL&W #3001), and
  Survivor Boxcab B-W ARMCO B-70.
  Survivor Boxcab B-W ARMCO B-71.
  Survivor Boxcab B-W ARMCO B-73.
  Survivor Boxcab U.C. #3/EMCO #11.
      [Please note that there was a previous URL with the oxymoronic filename
      boxcuc11.html; this has been denigrated to a reference page
      to the more appropriate filename boxcbuc3.html.]

  LIRR #401 and Sister Boxcabs page, continued on
  LIRR #401 and Sister Boxcabs continuation page 1 with the LIRR's excuse for a new #401!
  and on LIRR #401 and Sister Boxcabs continuation page 2 with many "new" photos.
  Model Boxcabs page, with
  Boxcab Modeling Notes and
  Boxcab Dimensions.
  Model Boxcabs Continuation Page 1, with
  Monster Boxcab Models.
  Model BoxcabZ (1:220) page, with
  Lájos Thek's Electric Boxcab.
  ALCo-GE-IR Boxcabs Continuation Page 3,
  the boxcab bibliography (older material - to 1989),
  continued on Boxcab Bibliography (newer material - 1990 up)
  ALCo-GE-IR Boxcabs Continuation Page 4,
  with more ALCo-GE-IR boxcab information,
  plus Ingersoll-Rand Boxcabs, with a 1929 I-R boxcab brochure
  (see also an original GE Demo Brochure reproduced on the AGEIR page) and
  both I-R and GE Instruction Sheets for a 1929 600-hp, 100-tonner,
  and I-R Page 2 with a 1936 catalog of the 113 oil-electrics built to then,
  Baldwin (and Westinghouse) Boxcabs, with a 1930 catalog,
  Survivor Boxcab B-W ARMCO B-71
  Survivor Boxcab B-W ARMCO B-73
  Survivor Boxcab CLW {B-W} CNR #7700/77
  Survivor Boxcab NCC {Harland & Wulff} CP #7000
  Other Boxcabs continuation page 2, with EMD, Brill, Porter
      and other oil-electrics/diesels,
    EMC/EMD E6 Boxcabs!, and
    GE Shovelnoses.
    McKeen Boxcabs? - Yup!
    1903 Boxcab!   new.gif (04 Oct 08)
  GE Boxcabs page, with unique GE units, including
  GE 20/23-ton Boxcabs.
  GE Shovelnoses and
  Chiriqui Land Co. miniboxcabs.
      {coverage moved from Boxcab Continuation Page 2 on 28 Jan 02 and augmented.}
  Surviving GE Electric Boxcabs.
  Survivor Boxcab EMC B&O #50 and much more on EMC units.
  EMC/EMD Boxcabs with SF #1, #1A Twins.
  Survivor Boxcab British Ford Thomson-Houston   (with coverage of a "modern" 1989 Scots-built boxcab
    and other British boxcabs).
  Odd Boxcabs continuation page 5, with
  air boxcabs,
steam boxcabs
    (even a boxcab tender!),
odder boxcabs and
    Odder Boxcabs - continued.
    TEXAS-MEXICAN BOXCABS (separated out 12 Apr 03), and
    Electric Boxcabs (separated out 07 Jan 01), with
  ELECTRIC BOXCABS
    Piedmont & Northern #5103
      (moved to Electric Boxcab (Survivors) Continuation Page 3 on 11 Jun 02)
  ELECTRIC BOXGON!, a boxcab gondola (really!),
    Electric Boxcabs - Part 2 (separated out 17 Jan 01), with
  1893 GE #1 / MfrsRR #1
  Chilean Boxcabs,
  St. Clair Tunnel Electric Boxcabs,
  Mystery Canadian G.E. Electric Boxcab (no it's not!),
  Chilean Boxcabs, and
  Other Overseas Electric Boxcabs
    Electric Boxcab (Survivors) Continuation Page 2:
  GE #1/MfrsRR #1 History (continued),
  So. Bklyn #4 (moved from El. page 2 on 31 Dec 02).
  L&PS #L1 and #L2.
  Butte, Anaconda & Pacific.
    Electric Boxcabs (Survivors) Continuation Page 3:
  Piedmont & Northern #5103
    (moved there from the main Electric Boxcabs page on 11 Jun 02).
  ALCo-GE-IR Boxcabs Continuation Page 6, with even more info.,
    especially about the 100/108-ton units,
    More ALCo-GE-IR Boxcab Information   (moved from Boxcabs Continuation Page 3 on 18 Dec 00).
    1915 GE Jay Street Connecting RR #3.
    Chicago & Northwestern (C&NW) Boxcabs   (moved from Boxcabs Continuation Page 3 on 18 Dec 00).
    The Red River Lumber Co. #502   (moved from Boxcabs Continuation Page 3 on 18 Dec 00).
    "A", "B", and "F" (and "1" and "2") Ends - Which is Which?
  Model Boxcabs, and
  Boxcab Photo Archives of Trains Unlimited, Tours.
  PRR Boxcabs
  PRR Class A6/A6B (first PRR I.C. Boxcab Locos).
  PRR Class P5 #4700 (1931, Altoona).
  PRR Class DD1 #3936-3937 (Juniata, 1911).
  Class B1 #5690 (Altoona, 1934).
  1939 Mack #4 (1939 conversion of 1924 GE Trolley Freight Motor).   new.gif (21 Aug 08)
{I'm losing track (pardon the pun)!}

Boxcab Page Tour Sequence.


BOXCAB MAIN PAGE INDEX:

  Boxcab History and Introductory matter {at beginning of page}.

  Early Predecessors of the ALCo-GE-IR Boxcabs.

  Boxcab Models built by ALCo and GE.
    was moved to Continuation Page 4 - Models 20 Apr 00.]       to make room on this Boxcabs "Home" page.

  Known ALCo-GE-IR Boxcab Production and
  Known GE Boxcab Production
    were moved to Continuation Page 4 - ALCo-GE-IR Production and
      Continuation Page 4 - GE Production
    to make room on the Boxcabs "Home" page.

Ditto model boxcabs, now on my Model Boxcabs page.


[First of all, I want to credit Bill Russell, Penny Bridge; we seem to be linking back and forth but he has the most compendious site about NY-area railroading, where most boxcabs lurked, with tons of information.

Second, take a look at Mark Laundry's Yard Limit Diesel Switcher Spotter's and Reference Guide, a site about early diesel switchers, especially a 1994 paper by Benn Coifman on "The Evolution of the Diesel Locomotive in the United States", with an excellent history of the ALCo-GE-IR consortium, and including a section on GE's contributions (on both of which I have drawn), as well as McKeen, Westinghouse/Baldwin, Hamilton/EMC/EMD, and Pullman's efforts.]

There is another site about BOXCABS!  It's Railroading in the North East (Northeast Railfan), Clint Chamberlain's neat efforts; he has a page of BOXCAB PHOTOS, many by Don Ross and one erroneously credited to me, mostly on this (my) site, but take a look at his whole site!

John F. Campbell's ALCO / General Electric / Ingersoll-Rand (AGEIR) Diesel-Electric Locomotives" Site

Since Sep 00, there had been an extremely detailed and accurate site focusing exclusively on the earliest history of the ALCo-GE-IR (AGEIR) and GE-IR locos, the late John F. Campbell's "http://www.execpc.com/~jcampbel/ageir.html" ALCO / General Electric / Ingersoll-Rand (AGEIR) Diesel-Electric Locomotives" site; I had heartily recommended it to you!  John Campbell had since added a complete roster of all the ALCo-GE-IR boxcab locos built in the first production run, totalling 33 units, from 1925 to 1930, but not the later Bi- and Tri-Power or GE-IR units.  He then added a roster of the GE-IR units.  Unfortunately, John passed away far too early, on 23 Feb 2005 (for more more information about John, click here) and, after about a year, his site vanished from the Net.  Knowing he was gone, I took the precaution of saving his entire site, all the HTML coding and images (or so I thought) and have now reproduced it in full to the best of my ability, adding a full index:

AGEIR Boxcabs Pages Index (my own addition - to be detailed as I devote the time)

AGEIR History {main page}

AGEIR #8835 Demonstrator

AGEIR #8835 Demonstrator {continued}

AGEIR #8835 Demonstration Trials of 1924 and 1925

AGEIR #9681 Demonstrator and early construction information

AGEIR First Production of 60 ton 300 horsepower Oil-electric Locomotives

AGEIR First Production of 100 ton 600 horsepower Oil-electric Locomotive

Additional AGEIR Notes

AGEIR 60 Ton Oil-Electrics on ALCO Order # S-1532 and Order # S-1543

Chicago & North Western AGEIR and GE/I-R Diesel-electric Locomotives {First of} Two Pages)

Chicago & North Western AGEIR and GE/I-R Diesel-electric Locomotives (Second Page)

GENERAL ELECTRIC 20 and 23 TON BOX CABS

GENERAL ELECTRIC 23 TON 36" NARROW GAUGE BOX CAB

AGEIR Oil-electric Diesel-electric LOCOMOTIVE ROSTER {First of} Two Pages)

AGEIR Oil-electric Diesel-electric LOCOMOTIVE ROSTER (Page 2)

Post AGEIR - GE/I-R Oil-electric Diesel-electric LOCOMOTIVE ROSTER

A few of the illustrations are lost and some (especially on the GE/I-R roster) have yet to be recreated but the vast bulk of John's work is again available.  You can pick from the links above, go directly to to the index page, or start with the main page and proceed in John's intended sequence by clicking the Next Page > buttons at the bottom of each page.   new.gif (22 Jul 06)


BIG NEWS! - I-R found an old brochure on the original boxcabs; it (a xerocopy) arrived 18 May 98 and is a gold mine!  I-R gave me permission (19 May 98) to reproduce it, which I plan to do on a new page (or pages), starting with my Ingersoll-Rand page, on which I've already listed the boxcab photos and illustrations therein.  I-R uses the term "box-type cab" and all units are double ended (2 engineer's control stands).

An original GE Demo Brochure is reproduced on the AGEIR page.


A note on usage - I have always used ALCo, in lieu of ALCO, for the American Locomotive Company and have been taken to task for the affectation;
I don't remember where I first ran across it, but I'm not about to change now.


ROSTER OF SURVIVING ALCo-GE-INGERSOLL-RAND BOXCAB OIL-ELECTRIC (DIESEL) LOCOMOTIVES

See SURVIVORS continuation page.

It would now appear that there are seven (7) ALCo-GE-IR (and just GE-IR or GE alone) boxcab units surviving,
including at least one GE 20/23-tonner.  In addition there are three (3) ARMCO {Baldwin-Westinghouse} units
and CNR #77 and CP #7000 in Montréal {non-ALCo-GE-IR}.

In addition there are three (3) ARMCO {Baldwin-Westinghouse} units and CNR #77 and CP #7000 in Montréal {non-ALCo-GE-IR}.

There are also two 1915 GE boxcab electrics in Ontario!

For details on surviving ALCo-GE-IR boxcab locomotives, see the SURVIVORS continuation page.  Other survivors are noted on the Other Boxcabs continuation page.

I have added several pages of detailed photos of the CNJ #1000 (120 photos) and the only surviving 108-tonner, Foley Bros. #110-1 (35 photos).

O.K., folks, who knows when the last boxcab in series production (as opposed to the durable Dan Patch loco) ran at the end of continuous service?



BOXCAB PAGES TOUR INDEX

Because the URL page numbering is NOT sequential, and even I am getting confused, here is the sequence of the tour arrows at the bottom of each page:

note-rt.gif - this may not be 100% correct but you get the general idea (I hope); I'm still working on the sequencing.


URL - *.html	Page

In the tour sequence:

boxcabdx	Boxcabs Index
boxcabs		Main Boxcabs page
boxcabs4	Boxcabs cont. page 4 (overflow)
boxcabs3	ALCo-GE-IR cont. page 3,
		  with Boxcabs Bibliography (older material - to 1989)
boxcabib	Boxcabs Bibliography - cont'd. (1990 - up)
boxcabs1	LIRR #401 & Sisters
boxcab1a	LIRR #401 & Sisters cont. page
boxcabs6	Boxcabs cont. page 6 (including more on 100/108-tonners)
boxcbprr	PRR Class A6/A6b (first PRR I.C. Boxcab Locos) and others
boxcabnh	New Haven Boxcabs
boxcabny	New York Central Boxcabs (with S-motor continuation)
boxcabs0	Survivor Boxcabs
boxcabsv	Survivor Notes
boxcnj1k	CNJ #1000
boxcuc11	  {ref. page to boxcbuc3}
boxcabir	I-R, with '29 brochure
boxcbir2	I-R page 2, with '36 catalog
boxcabs2	Other Boxcabs cont. page 2
boxcabge	GE Boxcabs page
boxcabsb	Baldwin/Westinghouse '30 catalog
boxcabs5	Odd Boxcabs cont. page 5
boxcab5a	Odder Boxcabs cont. page 5a
boxcabel	Electric Boxcabs
boxcabl1	Electric Boxcabs - part 2
boxcabl2	Electric Boxcab Survivors cont. page 2
boxcabl3	Electric Boxcab Survivors cont. page 3
boxcabmd	Model Boxcabs page
boxcbmd1	Model Boxcabs cont. page 1
boxcabz	Model BoxzcabZ (1:220)

Not in the tour sequence (yet):

  Survivors - GE and AGEIR (in no order):

boxcdp1c	Dan Patch #100
boxcnj-1	CNJ #1000 photo page
boxcnjp1	CNJ #1000 photo page 1
boxcnjp2	CNJ #1000 photo page 2
boxcbno1	B&O #1/195/8000
boxcir90	I.R. #90
boxcir91	I.R. #91 (DL&W #3001)
boxcbuc3	U.C.#3/EMCO #11
boxc1101	Foley Br.#110-1
boxzc110p	Foley Br.#110-1 photo page 2

  Survivors - non-AGEIR:

boxcbo50	EMC B&O #50
boxcab70	B-W ARMCO B-70.
boxcab71	B-W ARMCO B-71
boxcab73	B-W ARMCO B-73
boxccn77	CLW/CNR #7700/77
boxccp7k	NCC{H&W}CP #7000
boxcfbth	British Ford Thompson Houston
box-sbk4	South Brooklyn #4
boxcabdd	PRR Class DD1 #3936-3937 (Juniata, 1911)
boxcabp5	PRR Class P5 #4700 (1931, Altoona)
boxcabb1	Class B1 #5690 (Altoona, 1934)
boxmack4	Mack #4 (GE 1924/Mack 1939)

  Other pages:

boxtours	Trains Unlimited, Tours Photo Collection (archive)
note-rt.gif - this may not be 100% correct but you get the general idea (I hope); I'm still working on the sequencing.

Updated ( rev.gif 21 Aug 08 )

See the primary page index at the top of this page for more detail of each page's contents and links.



LEGACY

  What happens to all this when I DIE or (heaven forfend!) lose interest?  See LEGACY.



There are now seventy (70) BOXCAB pages.


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To tour the Boxcabs pages in sequence, the arrows take you from this Boxcabs index page to the first Boxcabs page, then to continuation pages 3 and up, then 100-tonner LIRR #401 and her sisters, survivor boxcabs (with map) and survivor notes, survivor CNJ #1000 (the very first), Ingersoll-Rand boxcabs (with instruction manual), other (non-ALCo/GE/I-R) boxcabs, Baldwin-Westinghouse boxcabs, odd boxcabs, and finally model boxcabs.



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