ALCo-GE-IR Boxcab ModelZ
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I-R 60-ton Demo

A "new" boxcab!  Ingersoll-Rand Demonstrator #9681
(photo provenance uncertain; possibly from 1980s AAR flyer)

MODEL ALCo-GE-IR
(and other)
BOXCAB
Oil-Electric LocomotiveZ
in Z Scale (1:220)

(by which I mean scale models of boxcabs,
NOT different versions of prototype boxcabs)

(American Locomotive Company - General Electric - Ingersoll-Rand)

There are now more than fifty (50) BOXCAB pages;
see the main Boxcabs page and the Boxcabs INDEX.

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PAGE INDEX:

On the "main" model boxcabs page:
    BOXCAB MODELING NOTES.
    BOXCAB DIMENSIONS.

The rest of that page is unindexed; scroll away.

On the model boxcabs continuation page 1:
    Boxcab Model Miscellany - continued from the main Boxcab models Page.

    MONSTER MODEL BOXCABS.

On this model boxcabZ page:
    Unindexed; scroll away, except
    Lájos Thek's Electric Boxcab


The intent here is to combine the focus on model boxcabs with the focus on Z scale modeling at only 220 times smaller than life; eventually, I hope to move all coverage of these models from the various boxcab and Z-scale pages to this page.


From the main Model Boxcabs page:

SCALE MODELS of BOXCAB OIL-ELECTRIC LOCOMOTIVES

(Base information from Main Boxcabs Page)

401 in Z-scale 1:220 1000 in Z-scale 1:220 LIRR 401                    CNJ 1000

Z-Scale (1:220) Drawings

(This is no longer just a drawing!
See below and Even More Z on Z-scale page 5.)

The World's First Production Diesel Road Switcher

Also the first diesel to haul a revenue train on a long-distance run

For modeling information primarily specific to LIRR #401 (first), the first diesel road switcher, you were previously referred to LIRR #401 and Sister Boxcabs continuation page (which shows the LIRR's excuse for a new #401!), but the Boxcab Modeling Notes and Boxcab Dimensions, have now been moved here (below).

WOW! - There is now a Z-scale (1:220) boxcab model!

FR boxcab & hoppers
Image of development model from Freudenreich Feinwerktechnik
with FR Z-scale hopper cars!

Freudenreich makes this fabulous 60-ton Boxcab model with and without end doors; here's the production CNJ #1000 (without end doors) and Erie #20 (with end doors):

FR CNJ #1000
[Thumbnail image - click on the picture for the full image.
Photos by H. Freudenreich - all rights reserved.]

{Note that the stacks are now properly offset - gee, I wonder what boxcab fan(atic) pointed that out?}  :-)

More information and latest photos.

Freudenreich just "happened" make a one-off Z (1:220) 100-ton Boxcab chassis.  No one else came forward for a Z 100-tonner, but you can see the chassis for LIRR #401 in Z 1:220 (with only one flywheel, after all - no room) on my new FR Z-scale page at FR BOXCAB LOCOMOTIVES.

[There just "happens" to be a second chassis and body which is available just in case anyone else is desperate for a #401 of their own in Z; let me know if you're that person (and serious - it won't be inexpensive!).]

Here is the completed FR body shell (I have a LOT of work to do):

Z 401 Shell Z 401 Body
(photos 31 Oct 02 by and © 2002 S. Berliner, III)

That's a "gold" dollar.

Now, for LIRR (2nd) #402 in Z (a custom FR chassis projected for early Winter 2002 has been ditched in favor of chopping up a brand-new Märklin #88690)!  Here is the "raw material" [received ~07 Aug 02 (seems a shame to chop it up)]:

88690 left (01) 88690 right (02)

88690 left (04) 88690 right (02)'

88690 lighting
(13 Aug 02 photos by and © 2002 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

This last shows the integrated headlight and running light LED and diode panel at each end of the body; I can't see any way to utilize these elegant devices.  The chassis and the lighting portion of the wiring PCboard on top have to be shortened drastically at each end (no problem) and the chassis milled slightly narrower (problem).  Then FR boxcab sideframes have to be fitted to each truck (no problem - the very slight difference in truck and axle wheelbases will not really show).

Here's a mock-up (using two FR 60-ton bodies; you can see why the chassis has to be narrowed and shortened):

Z 402 Mock-up

Next comes a powered Baldwin-Westinghouse LIRR #403A in Z ("Mike" - I don''t think I'll bother with #403B, "Ike"; one's enough and the married pair were separated early on); this will be faked on an early Märklin 8800 chassis with the center drivers removed and a new 5-pole motor substituted.

Here's a mock-up (using a far-too-long FR 60-ton body):

Z 403 Mock-up
(31 Oct 02 photos by and © 2002 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

(More on Boxcab Models Continuation Page 1)

See also FREUDENREICH's site!

Lest you disbelieve that I'm loony enough to chop up a perfectly good Märklin #8800 0-6-0T steamer for this latter project; here's the almost-bare chassis, preparatory to cutting just abaft the motor and forward of the rear motor mounting screw, as well as up front just forward of the front cover plate screw.  I didn't take the trouble to find a close-up lens but you can more-or-less make out the following (left to right); rear coupler, buffers, and spring, rear motor mounting screw, brush, wheel pickup with crank pins at each end, next to the center drivers, with the main rods (there aren't any side rods) with crossheads, "valve gear"/crosshead guides, and the insulator block in the middle, static filter and holders, wheel pickup and brush below dime for comparison, cylinder saddle, spring, buffers, and front coupler.  The chassis with the motor, front screw, and running gear is above; note that the center axle drivers have been pulled but I am NOT going to cut it down to the width of the chassis, after all. Rather, I'll buy an extra set of intermediate axles (the gears are the same size as on the center axle on the 8800 - unlike those on the 8805) and use one of them, already cut to length.

8800 in pieces
(04 Nov 02 photo by and © 2002 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Those crank pins have to be the all-time high in miniaturization of any model railroad item with which I have ever worked!  Jewelry!  And I thought the buffers were impressive!

Next comes the razor saw!  Really!  You'll see!  If the late, great Bill Schopp, who used to write for RMC in the '50s and '60s, could do it, so can I (and have, many times)!  I TOLD YOU SO!  Didn't believe me, huh?  Other than the background, this photo is unretouched:

8800 cut for 403
(07 Dec 02 photo by and © 2002 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
{Gotta find those close-up lenses!}

I have just enough of the front (right) remaining to hold a modified cylinder saddle, which holds the insulator block, which, in turn, holds just about everything else!

Since I was slicing away the rear of the chassis and motor frame FORWARD of the rear mounting screw, I was concerned with means of holding the motor down at the back.  HA!  It turns out that the rear screw was not tightened; it was some 0.5mm up above the frame boss.  If it ran this long that way, I guess it can continue to do so.  I'll probably just cantilever a support from the front to counter the bending moment on the front support, just because.

Such fun!

See also FREUDENREICH's site!


Lájos Thek, a Hungarian-American Z-scaler, has come out with an electric boxcab, the Deutsche Reichsbahn ET194.11 electric freight railcar, his #21851, which he crafts from a heavily-modified Märklin #88051 (5-pole motor) chassis:

Thek ET194.11 20 Thek ET194.11 60
(photos courtesy of L. Thek - all rights reserved)

Thek ET194.11 in1 Thek ET194.11 in2

Thek ET194.11 1
(photos courtesy of L. Thek - all rights reserved)


There are now more than fifty-five (55) BOXCAB pages;
see the main Boxcabs page and the Boxcabs INDEX.


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To tour the Boxcabs pages in sequence, the arrows take you from the previous page, to the Boxcabs subject index, the first Boxcabs page, and on to continuation pages 3 and 4, then 100-tonner LIRR #401 and her sisters, survivor boxcabs (with map) and survivor notes, survivor CNJ #1000 (the very first), Ingersoll-Rand boxcabs (with instruction manual), other (non-ALCo/GE/I-R) boxcabs, Baldwin-Westinghouse boxcabs, and finally odd boxcabs.



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