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The following are 35 articles from rec.models.rc.air on the subject of Litco Alpha4 extracted from Dejanews.
Subject: Battery Management From: amofcprod@aol.com Date: 1997/01/02 Message-Id: <19970102195600.OAA21071@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Admin: news@aol.com
Ok, After searching and searching through deja what is the general concensus on battery managers, is the Litco system the best all around??? TIA, Regards, and Thanks!!!! Michael Bennett AMA 341703 - San Fernando Valley Giant Scale Squadron - IMAA # 20012 Bigger is Better!!! Twins are twice the fun! hogrider@msn.com or AmOfcProd@aol.com (Not my account, so, my views are mine not that of the account owner!)
Subject: Re: Battery Management From: tatosian@eng.pko.dec.com (Dave Tatosian) Date: 1997/01/03 Message-Id: <5ai5rp$ip7$4@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <19970102195600.OAA21071@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: Alpha Server Engineering Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
In article <19970102195600.OAA21071@ladder01.news.aol.com>, amofcprod@aol.com wrote: >After searching and searching through deja what is the general concensus >on battery managers, is the Litco system the best all around??? Mike: If you're looking for a vote, put me down for "Yes - the Litco A4 is the most capable/versatile battery manager for under $200". I won't bother to echo what you have probably seen in Pete F's advertisements - the list of features and capabilities is far too long to repeat verbatim here. Suffice to say that I don't think you can find anything that'll do as much (and simultaneously) as the A4 can do. And given the demand (and resulting backlog) on this unit, I'm not the only one who thinks so (it'll take you a couple of months to get one delivered!) Cheers! /dave <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> Dave Tatosian tatosian@eng.pko.dec.com <> <> Digital Equipment Corp. Alpha Server Engineering <> <> Parker Street Campus Maynard, Massachusetts <> <> Charter Member of "Curmudgeons Unlimited" <> <><><><><><><><><><><><> AMA 548313 <><><><><><><><><><><><> Disclaimer: Opinion and content is mine alone, and unlikely to be shared by my employer, etc...
Subject: Re: Battery Management From: Jerel Zarestky <jxz@ornl.gov> Date: 1997/01/03 Message-Id: <32CD2138.1DAE@ornl.gov> References: <19970102195600.OAA21071@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5ai5rp$ip7$4@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-Ascii Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC)
Dave Tatosian wrote: > > In article <19970102195600.OAA21071@ladder01.news.aol.com>, > amofcprod@aol.com wrote: > >After searching and searching through deja what is the general concensus > >on battery managers, is the Litco system the best all around??? > > Mike: If you're looking for a vote, put me down for "Yes - the Litco A4 is the > most capable/versatile battery manager for under $200". > > I won't bother to echo what you have probably seen in Pete F's advertisements > - the list of features and capabilities is far too long to repeat verbatim > here. Suffice to say that I don't think you can find anything that'll do as > much (and simultaneously) as the A4 can do. And given the demand (and > resulting backlog) on this unit, I'm not the only one who thinks so (it'll > take you a couple of months to get one delivered!) > > Cheers! > > /dave > Another ditto. I've had mine for about a year now and can't operate without it. Jerel -- Jerel Zarestky Neutron Scattering Group Ames Laboratory / ISU @ Oak Ridge National Laboratory http://scatterbrain.ssd.ornl.gov/NSatHFIR/NSatHFIR.html
Subject: Re: Battery Management From: wb4guk@aol.com Date: 1997/01/03 Message-Id: <19970103105300.FAA12216@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5ai5rp$ip7$4@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Admin: news@aol.com
In article <5ai5rp$ip7$4@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, tatosian@eng.pko.dec.com (Dave Tatosian) writes: >In article <19970102195600.OAA21071@ladder01.news.aol.com>, > amofcprod@aol.com wrote: >>After searching and searching through deja what is the general concensus >>on battery managers, is the Litco system the best all around??? > >Mike: If you're looking for a vote, put me down for "Yes - the Litco A4 is >the >most capable/versatile battery manager for under $200". > SNIP IMHO yes, I vote the Litco aplha 4, I now have three of them. Dan Ham radio WB4GUK AMA 32873 EAA 60974 T J3-2026m PA20-2217a ---------o-O-o-------- Treat others today like you would like to be treated, for tomorrow you may work for them!
Subject: Re: Litco Systems Battery Cycler From: piperpacer@aol.com (PiperPacer) Date: 1996/03/14 Message-Id: <4i8suc$b61@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com References: <31456c46.1419431@news.enternet.co.nz> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
In article <31456c46.1419431@news.enternet.co.nz>, pete@enternet.co.nz (Peter Leaver) writes: >Subject: Litco Systems Battery Cycler >From: pete@enternet.co.nz (Peter Leaver) >Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:27:39 GMT > >Hi all, >snip< >Does anyone have any experience with the Litco Systems Alpha-4 battery >management system? (Which is advertised in RCM fairly regularly). > >snip< >Peter Leaver >Tauranga, New Zealand >pete@enternet.co.nz > I have one and a friend has one. I think it is one of the best on the market. If I needed another one, I would buy the Litco again. . -|- Dan ----o-o-O-o-o---- .
Subject: Re: Litco Systems Battery Cycler From: Jerel Zarestky <jxz@ornl.gov> Date: 1996/03/15 Message-Id: <3149B9B0.800@ornl.gov> References: <31456c46.1419431@news.enternet.co.nz> <4i8suc$b61@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-Ascii Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K)
> In article <31456c46.1419431@news.enternet.co.nz>, pete@enternet.co.nz > (Peter Leaver) writes: > > >Subject: Litco Systems Battery Cycler > >From: pete@enternet.co.nz (Peter Leaver) > >Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:27:39 GMT > > > >Hi all, > > >snip< > >Does anyone have any experience with the Litco Systems Alpha-4 battery > >management system? (Which is advertised in RCM fairly regularly). > > > >snip< > > >Peter Leaver > >Tauranga, New Zealand > >pete@enternet.co.nz > > I have one also; I love it. I have several airbornes and two Tx's and to be able to cycle/peak/trickle four things at once is great. Jerel -- Jerel Zarestky Neutron Scattering Group Ames Laboratory / ISU @ Oak Ridge National Laboratory http://scatterbrain.ssd.ornl.gov/NSatHFIR/NSatHFIR.html
Subject: Re: Litco Systems Battery Cycler From: James McEwen <mcewen@cae.ca> Date: 1996/03/18 Message-Id: <314D8C99.34D0@cae.ca> References: <31456c46.1419431@news.enternet.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-Ascii Organization: CAE Electronics Ltd Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I)
Peter Leaver wrote: > > Does anyone have any experience with the Litco Systems Alpha-4 battery > management system? (Which is advertised in RCM fairly regularly). > I have an Alpha 4; its a great piece of kit. With its ability to charge in tricle, slow, fast, and rapid, cycle in slow, fast, or rapid, process wet or dry cells with up to 4 packs independantly and simulataneously using Ac or DC power IT IS THE ONLY CHARGER THAT YOU WILL EVER NEED (unless you get into electrics). If you want to chat about it, contact me directly. Regards, Jim McEwen mcewen@cae.ca
Subject: Re: The Ultimate charger From: sbixby@crl.com (Steven W. Bixby) Date: 1996/09/18 Message-Id: <51piji$r6q@crl13.crl.com> References: <323F3A16.3993@erols.com> <51nt9a$dsg@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> Organization: CRL Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
Martin G. (marting007@usa.pipeline.com) wrote: : : You might also want to check out the new Litco Alpha 4 system at: : http://members.gnn.com/PFigielski/Litco.htm They will also send you lots : of information. The Litco system ($199) can supposedly handle up to 8 : batteries or 4 systems of receiver/transmitter (on trickle mode) : simultaneously. It also seems to be more versatile, since it can run off : of DC and you could even take it along to the field as a fast charger. : Although, I still don't like the short Litco warranty, I think it is the : better system.......Now all I need is $$$$$. It's a GREAT system. But it only handles four batteries, not four "systems". Each battery can be processed with one of 10 different 'programs', independently of the others. The input is actually a wall pack, so plug in a 12V car battery and you can charge anywhere. Mine will soon also be used in a toolbox with a 12v gel cell as an easily mobilized charge station for HLG and their small (110 or 150) batteries. -- -swb- (Steve Bixby, sbixby@crl.com)
Subject: Re: What's a good Ni-Cd Charging System? From: Chris Shepherd <shep1@pop.erols.com> Date: 1996/10/01 Message-Id: <32513B7F.39DE@pop.erols.com> References: <3250DF7B.6605@singnet.com.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-Ascii Organization: RCAV8R Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; I)
Kai wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm getting back into RC after more than 5 years. I'm looking for a > good Tx/Rx Ni-Cd charger/discharger (called a cycler?). After browsing > through RCM, I spotted only two, a Hobbico dual display and another > whose make I can't remember. > > Is the Hobbico a good thing? Is there a unit out in the market that > does Tx/Rx as well as big 1500mAH motor batteries? How about connecting > to the AC mains for charging? > > Any help appreciated. > Thanks. My first charger/cycler was a digipace II and it is very limited as to what it can do. Take a look at the Litco Alpha charger/cycler. Lots of features for a reasonable price(approx $200 US). They have an info page on the net but I can't remember the address...I'm sure someone else has it;-)You can program the charge rates and it can run off of AC or DC current. Great for taking it to the field.
Subject: Re: What's a good Ni-Cd Charging System? From: tatosian@eng.pko.dec.com (Dave Tatosian) Date: 1996/10/02 Message-Id: <52skin$vjh@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <3250DF7B.6605@singnet.com.sg> Organization: DEC/Alpha Server Engineering Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
In article <3250DF7B.6605@singnet.com.sg>, Kai <likihg@singnet.com.sg> wrote: >I'm getting back into RC after more than 5 years. I'm looking for a >good Tx/Rx Ni-Cd charger/discharger (called a cycler?). After browsing >through RCM, I spotted only two, a Hobbico dual display and another >whose make I can't remember. > >Is the Hobbico a good thing? Is there a unit out in the market that >does Tx/Rx as well as big 1500mAH motor batteries? How about connecting >to the AC mains for charging? The Hobbico Accucycle claims it can handle up to a 1875ma pack - based on a maximum charge rate of 125ma for 15 hours (the charge function is a fixed 15 hour device with switchable charge rates). An 8-cell pack is the largest it can handle, from the spec's. There's no peak detection - once the 15 hours is up it switches to trickle charge. It does provide auto discharge (250 or 500ma discharge rate selectable), switching to the fixed rate charger once the pack hits [(n)Cells x 1.05V/Cell] and will display charged capacity/discharge time. For the ~$110 that Tower is getting for this unit it's probably not a bad deal... But if you want the be all/end all battery management system, see the Litco Alpha-4 at http://members.gnn.com/PFigielski/Litco.htm. After reading about the capabilities of this unit it's hard to resist the urge to pony up the $200 to own one (now if Pete would just increase his warranty to a full year ;^) Cheers! /dave <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> Dave Tatosian tatosian@eng.pko.dec.com <> <> Digital Equipment Corp. Alpha Server Engineering <> <> Parker Street Campus Maynard, Massachusetts <> <> Charter Member of "Curmudgeons Unlimited" <> <><><><><><><><><><><><> AMA 548313 <><><><><><><><><><><><> Disclaimer: Opinion and content is mine alone, and unlikely to be shared by my employer, etc...
Subject: Re: New nicad care ques... From: "Martin G" <marting007@usa.pipeline.com> Date: 1996/11/07 Message-Id: <01bbcc65$150f2d60$d76f0e26@ms032745> References: <32814F7A.58C1@magiclink.com> Organization: Gambill Family Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
I've been doing some research into this very question over the past 6 months. After looking into the features, price, etc.. of a plethora of charger/cyclers, I've concluded that if you have $200.00 to spend the best bet would be Litco's Alpha-4 system (cost is $199.00 not including shipping, and 12 volt battery source connector which is extra). All the other systems that I looked at (except for one which was much more expensive) fell short of the Alpha-4 in features. This battery management system can apparently do it all from 1 to 12 cell Ni Cds, Ni Mhs, and Gell cells up to 18 volts. It has numerous built in charge and discharge programs and can be used as a fast charger, or can be tailored to your specific needs. It will run of AC or 12 volt DC, and will work off your car battery even with the motor running (a nice feature to be able to charge on the way to the flying field). Many other features are also available (see their ad in RCM or information on their web page: <http://members.gnn.com/PFigielski/Litco.htm>. My only negative finding concerning this system has been the short (in my opinion) 6 mo. warranty. I don't have one yet myself, but have heard from several guys that do, and I've heard nothing but good comments. I just put myself on the waiting list for one a couple of days ago.....yes there is a wait to get one. As of 2 days ago if you sign up now you would be on the list for one which would ship on 30 Dec. I know this sounds like and ad for Litco, but I have absolutely no association with them at all, except for having owned one of their previous systems (Litco Multi-Cycle) which is still working fine now after 8 or 9 years. Martin G AMA #240487 Brad Craig <salvage@magiclink.com> wrote in article <32814F7A.58C1@magiclink.com>... > Lets say I have about $200 to spend on battery maintenence > devices.What do i get?Something like the Ace digipace 3 or maybe the > Hobbico accucycle for battery conditoning?A voltmeter?Or maybe a > combination of a few smaller less expensive tools.From what I can gather > on this NG the little chargers that copme with the radios are ot enough > if you get serious.What else is good?All opinions are appreciated.Thanks. > -- > > > Bradley Craig > http://www.magiclink.com/web/bcraig > I'd rather be flying. >
Subject: Re: New nicad care ques... From: sbixby@crl.com (Steven W. Bixby) Date: 1996/11/07 Message-Id: <55tm3r$h72@crl.crl.com> References: <32814F7A.58C1@magiclink.com> Organization: CRL Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
Brad Craig (salvage@magiclink.com) wrote: : Lets say I have about $200 to spend on battery maintenence : devices.What do i get?Something like the Ace digipace 3 or maybe the : Hobbico accucycle for battery conditoning?A voltmeter?Or maybe a : combination of a few smaller less expensive tools.From what I can gather : on this NG the little chargers that copme with the radios are ot enough : if you get serious.What else is good?All opinions are appreciated.Thanks. What THEY said! Litco Alpha 4. You can have mine after you pry my cold dead fingers from it. (Oops... you aren't a bad guy are you???) -- -swb- (Steve Bixby, sbixby@crl.com)
Subject: Re: New nicad care ques... From: wb4guk@aol.com Date: 1996/11/09 Message-Id: <19961109004400.TAA05007@ladder01.news.aol.com> Sender: news@aol.com References: <55tm3r$h72@crl.crl.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) (1.10) Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
In article <55tm3r$h72@crl.crl.com>, sbixby@crl.com (Steven W. Bixby) writes: >Brad Craig (salvage@magiclink.com) wrote: >: Lets say I have about $200 to spend on battery maintenence >: devices.What do i get?Something like the Ace digipace 3 or maybe the >: Hobbico accucycle for battery conditoning?A voltmeter?Or maybe a >: combination of a few smaller less expensive tools.From what I can gather >: on this NG the little chargers that copme with the radios are ot enough >: if you get serious.What else is good?All opinions are appreciated.Thanks. > >What THEY said! > >Litco Alpha 4. You can have mine after you pry my cold dead fingers from >it. > >(Oops... you aren't a bad guy are you???) >-- > -swb- (Steve Bixby, sbixby@crl.com) > > After using my Alpha 4 for about 2 years now, I have ordered a second one which will be shipped in November. The 6 month warranty that some have pointed out doesn't and hasn't bothered me. Owning 2 should speak for itself. Dan WB4GUK (ham radio) AMA 32873 EAA 60974
Subject: Re: New nicad care ques... From: tatosian@eng.pko.dec.com (Dave Tatosian) Date: 1996/11/07 Message-Id: <55roht$n58$2@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <32814F7A.58C1@magiclink.com> Organization: Alpha Server Engineering Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
In article <32814F7A.58C1@magiclink.com>, Brad Craig <salvage@magiclink.com> wrote: >Lets say I have about $200 to spend on battery maintenence >devices.What do i get?Something like the Ace digipace 3 or maybe the >Hobbico accucycle for battery conditoning?A voltmeter?Or maybe a >combination of a few smaller less expensive tools.From what I can gather >on this NG the little chargers that copme with the radios are ot enough >if you get serious.What else is good?All opinions are appreciated.Thanks. This is almost too easy...Is this a set-up? ;^) For $200 (plus S&H) you can get the defacto top-o'-the-line battery maintenance system: the Litco Alpha-4. It has every trick in the book incorporated into a single unit. *Way* too many features to list, so I suggest you go take a look at Pete Figielski's page at http://members.gnn.com/PFigielski/Litco.htm btw: If you decide you must have an Alpha-4, expect at least a 2 month wait for one (that's what the backlog has been running at)... Cheers! /dave <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> Dave Tatosian tatosian@eng.pko.dec.com <> <> Digital Equipment Corp. Alpha Server Engineering <> <> Parker Street Campus Maynard, Massachusetts <> <> Charter Member of "Curmudgeons Unlimited" <> <><><><><><><><><><><><> AMA 548313 <><><><><><><><><><><><> Disclaimer: Opinion and content is mine alone, and unlikely to be shared by my employer, etc...
Subject: Litco Cycler/Charger;-) From: Chris Shepherd <shep1@pop.erols.com> Date: 1996/11/20 Message-Id: <3293ADAB.2F68@pop.erols.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-Ascii Organization: Charles County Windrifters http://www.radix.net/~rcahn/windrft.htm Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: shep1@pop.erols.com Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; I)
I just received my Alpha 4 yesterday and I love it. I probably won't use another type of charger again. Anyone out there have any neat tricks to improve this device further?
Subject: Re: Litco Cycler/Charger;-) From: wb4guk@aol.com Date: 1996/11/23 Message-Id: <19961123015100.UAA13276@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <3293ADAB.2F68@pop.erols.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) (1.13) Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Admin: news@aol.com
In article <3293ADAB.2F68@pop.erols.com>, Chris Shepherd <shep1@pop.erols.com> writes: >I just received my Alpha 4 yesterday and I love it. I probably won't >use another type of charger again. Anyone out there have any neat >tricks to improve this device further? > > I just received my third alpha 4 yesterday. I think I have enough of them now. I bought my first one about two years ago have have used it since, that is why I now own three. Chris, I don't know of any tricks except during charging multiple batteries, it switches the display sequentially. If you depress the run ( "R") key it will stop on the current diplay and stay until you depress the run key again. I don't think that is in the manual, but it may be. Dan WB4GUK AMA 32873 EAA 60974
Subject: Re: Litco Cycler/Charger;-) From: Chris Shepherd <shep1@pop.erols.com> Date: 1996/11/22 Message-Id: <3296A00B.7FB6@pop.erols.com> References: <3293ADAB.2F68@pop.erols.com> <19961123015100.UAA13276@ladder01.news.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-Ascii Organization: Charles County Windrifters http://www.radix.net/~rcahn/windrft.htm Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: shep1@pop.erols.com Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; I)
wb4guk@aol.com wrote: > > In article <3293ADAB.2F68@pop.erols.com>, Chris Shepherd > <shep1@pop.erols.com> writes: > > >I just received my Alpha 4 yesterday and I love it. I probably won't > >use another type of charger again. Anyone out there have any neat > >tricks to improve this device further? > > > > > > I just received my third alpha 4 yesterday. I think I have enough of them > now. Your THIRD one?! Good grief, how many flight packs do you have to charge and cycle? Yeah, the display scroll stop that you mention is in the instructions. This thing works great, just got an 800 mah pack to max out at 926 mah. Took me awhile to make up all the 'cords' for it though. Other than that I don't see any faults in the system.
Subject: Re: Battery Cyclers/Chargers From: "Martin G" <marting007@usa.pipeline.com> Date: 1996/12/15 Message-Id: <01bbea47$ed56ffe0$5e6f0e26@ms032745> References: <32B2CC5A.3368@prodigy.net> Organization: Gambill Family Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
I think you would be better off buying the new Litco Alpha 4. Much more versatile than the UBAIII (can be used as a fast field charger off of DC), charges more types of cells, etc., all for about the same price. I got information from both companies. The UBAIII paints a pretty graph on your computer screen, but I'm not sure just how much more useful that information is. -- Martin G AMA #240487 GOAL <GOAL@prodigy.net> wrote in article <32B2CC5A.3368@prodigy.net>... > I have an old Litco Multi-Cycle which I have been using and is working > fine but I'm considering buying a UBAIII (Ultimate Battery Analyzer) > from Vencon Technologies. This apparently can hook up to my old XT > computer sitting in the basement and give me a complete print out curve > of the battery discharge. > Does anyone out there have one and does it work as well as they claim? > Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > > Al >
Subject: Re: Alpha 4 Charger From: "John T. Gilmore" <j.gilmor@ix.netcom.com> Date: 1996/05/29 Message-Id: <31ACA95B.426D@ix.netcom.com> References: <4o1o6u$n1k@name1.state.ky.us> <4o3akr$asj@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> <4ob0h9$h1p@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-Ascii Organization: Netcom X-Netcom-Date: Wed May 29 12:53:54 PM PDT 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I)
Dave Tatosian wrote: > > In article <4o3akr$asj@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com>, > marting007@usa.pipeline.com wrote: > >I can't speak for the new Litco Alpha 4 system, but I do have one of their > >original "Multi-Cycle" systems which is still working fine after about 6 > >years (I did have to replace one of the cycler clocks for $10.00). > [snip] > >I too have been considering an upgrade to the Alpha 4 system which seems to > >be one of the most versatile products on the market. My only concern with > >this system is the limited warranty which is for only 6 months. > > 6 months?!? Geezus, with all the chest-pounding the Litco guy posts to this > group, hyping his product and how great it is, not to mention the > verging-on-outrageous price they want for the Alpha-4, you'd think they could > come up with a more competitive warranty... > > Cheers! > > /dave > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > <> Dave Tatosian tatosian@eng.pko.dec.com <> > <> Digital Equipment Corp. Alpha Server Engineering <> > <> "What doesn't kill you...will hurt like heck!" <> > <><><><><><><><><><><><> AMA 548313 <><><><><><><><><><><><>Dave, Litco has no competition, they are simply the best on the market. And I would hardly call $200 verging-on-outrageous. This is a very reasonable price for this quality equipment. Keep on using whatever crappy little charger you like...but when you're ready to come out and play with the big boys...get an Alpha. I don't work for Litco or have anything to do with them, but most of my R/C models are in the $3000.00 range (each) and I don't screw around with cheap chargers, I just buy the best and use it. John
Subject: Re: Alpha 4 Charger From: UJNG52A@prodigy.com ( ) Date: 1996/05/26 Message-Id: <4o9br4$1lpg@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> Distribution: world References: <4o1o6u$n1k@name1.state.ky.us> <4o3akr$asj@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> <4o4m44$ani@news-E2c.gnn.com> Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
Pete, for what it is worth. I discovered the Alpha 4 at the WRAM show in '95. After checking the cyber community for input I purchased one over the phone from Litco. I have been completely satisfied with the quality of your product and the helpfulness of everyone involved. (Knock on balsa!) - ERIC KNIAGER E_Kniager@prodigy.com
Subject: Re: Ultimate Charger From: rjbates@centuryinter.net (Ray Bates) Date: 1996/09/20 Message-Id: <N.091996.220401.54@anx1p2.cr.centuryinter.net> Organization: Century Telephone Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
On 9/18/96 12:19AM, in message <51nt9a$dsg@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com>, Martin G. <marting007@usa.pipeline.com> wrote: > On Sep 17, 1996 16:53:58 in article <The Ultimate charger>, 'Chris Shepherd > <shep1@erols.com>' wrote: > > > >Does anyone out there have any information on this charger? It is able > >to charge and cycle 8 batts at the same time. Sold for about $150 Any > >and all help is appreciated. > >Chris > -- > I think you mean the Ultimate Battery Analyzer (UBAIII plus) from Vencon > Technologies, Ontario Ca.. They will send you a packet of information if > you request it. Their e-mail address is: vencon@enterprise.ca This > thing plugs up to your PC and graphs discharge results (see review in RCM > Dec 1994). Price listed last time I checked was 179.95 with 2 year > warranty. Don't know about being able to charge 8 batteries > simultaneously? > > You might also want to check out the new Litco Alpha 4 system at: > http://members.gnn.com/PFigielski/Litco.htm They will also send you lots > of information. The Litco system ($199) can supposedly handle up to 8 > batteries or 4 systems of receiver/transmitter (on trickle mode) > simultaneously. It also seems to be more versatile, since it can run off > of DC and you could even take it along to the field as a fast charger. > Although, I still don't like the short Litco warranty, I think it is the > better system.......Now all I need is $$$$$. > > Martin > AMA #240487 > Amateur Radio #KD4OAE Chris, FWIW, I bought an Alpha 4 charger at the beginning of the summer. I couldn't be happier with it. As Martin says, you can run 4 systems at once --- what he doesn't say is that you can cycle all 4 at once, or mix'em (e.g., cycle 1 TX and 1 RX, while you slow-charge to trickle another TX and RX, etc.). I even set it up to charge the one-cell "hot shot" glow-plug starters. It's also nice to be able to use all the features while you're driving down the road! Even works as a volt-meter with/without load to test before you fly. I'm no expert on batteries and certainly not connected with Litco. But, if you would like additional information, I will try to help. For me the $199 price tag was steep, but I had not invested in any other charging/cycling equipment, so it was less(?) painful. Ray Bates Caro, MI rjbates@centuryinter.net
Subject: Re: opinions on battery chargers? From: wb4guk@aol.com Date: 1996/12/14 Message-Id: <19961214121100.HAA19495@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <Pine.A32.3.95.961213170646.63726A-100000@freenet3.afn.org> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Admin: news@aol.com
In article <Pine.A32.3.95.961213170646.63726A-100000@freenet3.afn.org>, Red Scholefield <redscho@afn.org> writes: >On 13 Dec 1996, Peter Ashwood-Smith wrote: > >> Ok, I have an opinion on the Accu Cycle (Hobbico). I would not >> recommend its use as a charger. As a cycler it works as advertised >> but as a charger it has one rather nasty problem. >> >> If you put your radio on charge and the power fails the charger >> will come back in trickle mode. Since the charger automatically flips >> to trickle mode after the normal 15hr charge you cannot tell the >> difference between a power failure and normal 15hr charge. > >This is one of the pluses for ACE Digipace III, it defaults back to the >charge mode so you can look and see how many hours it has been on charge. If >you put it on charge last night and you get a power glitch it will give you >an indication that you have been on only X hours since the glitch. Also it's >made in the USA and has a lifetime warranty. > > Red's R/C Battery Clinic > URL = http://yoda.fdt.net/~redscho >For NiCd disposal info. call 1-800-822-8837 > > The alpha 4 by Litco uses the battery pack that is plugged into port 1 for its backup power in case of a mains failure. After main power is restored it continues where it left off. It is American made but only carries a 6 month warranty. However, I have not found this to be a problem with the three I have. Dan Ham radio WB4GUK AMA 32873 EAA 60974 T J3-2026m PA20-2217a ---------o-O-o-------- Treat others today like you would like to be treated, for tomorrow you may work for them!
Subject: Re: opinions on battery chargers? From: Red Scholefield <redscho@afn.org> Date: 1996/12/14 Message-Id: <Pine.A32.3.95.961214171153.28791D-100000@freenet2.afn.org> References: <Pine.A32.3.95.961213170646.63726A-100000@freenet3.afn.org> <19961214121100.HAA19495@ladder01.news.aol.com> To: wb4guk@aol.com Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air Nntp-Posting-User: redscho
On 14 Dec 1996 wb4guk@aol.com wrote: > > The alpha 4 by Litco uses the battery pack that is plugged into port 1 for > its backup power in case of a mains failure. After main power is restored > it continues where it left off. It is American made but only carries a 6 > month warranty. However, I have not found this to be a problem with the > three I have. > From what I've read the Litco 4 is a very capable piece of battery maintenance equipment. Unfortunately I have not had the opportunity to ring one out here in the clinic. After my booboo on the 8UA FM/PCM issue I think I'll just keep my mouth shut unless I know what the hell I'm talking about. Anyone else want to take the pledge with me on this? Red's R/C Battery Clinic URL = http://yoda.fdt.net/~redscho For NiCd disposal info. call 1-800-822-8837
Subject: Re: opinions on battery chargers? From: tatosian@eng.pko.dec.com (Dave Tatosian) Date: 1996/12/16 Message-Id: <592e6a$b3l$2@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <Pine.A32.3.95.961213170646.63726A-100000@freenet3.afn.org> <19961214121100.HAA19495@ladder01.news.aol.com> <Pine.A32.3.95.961214171153.28791D-100000@freenet2.afn.org> Organization: Alpha Server Engineering Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
In article <Pine.A32.3.95.961214171153.28791D-100000@freenet2.afn.org>, Red Scholefield <redscho@afn.org> wrote: >From what I've read the Litco 4 is a very capable piece of battery >maintenance equipment. Unfortunately I have not had the opportunity to ring >one out here in the clinic. Red - this sounds like an opportunity to have RCM buy you an Alpha-4 for you to write a review! fwiw: I agree with The Other Dave - the A4 is a fine 'Murrican-made unit. Mine arrived two weeks ago, and after building about a dozen different cables, I've used it to analyze every nicad pack in the house - from the single-cell plug drivers to all my aircraft packs to my sons car packs to the packs that run my power tools and even the pack that runs my hand-vac. Great fun, educational, and eye-opening (found a pack with a bogus cell that had been lurking in the basement)... The only knock - and it's a small one - is the need to build many cables. It's a one-time aggravation - that could in fairness have been avoided to some measure - albeit at the cost of more $$$ paid to Pete Figielski for premade cables. Even so, you'll find the need for some "odd-ball" cables (that Litco doesn't sell) once you start analyzing all the weird packs lying around the homestead ;^) >After my booboo on the 8UA FM/PCM issue I think I'll just keep my mouth shut >unless I know what the hell I'm talking about. Anyone else want to take the >pledge with me on this? No way, Red: I won't pledge that you'll keep your mouth shut on *anything* - whether you know what you're talking about or not. That'd take some of the fun out of the group! ;^) Cheers! /dave <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> Dave Tatosian tatosian@eng.pko.dec.com <> <> Digital Equipment Corp. Alpha Server Engineering <> <> Parker Street Campus Maynard, Massachusetts <> <> Charter Member of "Curmudgeons Unlimited" <> <><><><><><><><><><><><> AMA 548313 <><><><><><><><><><><><> Disclaimer: Opinion and content is mine alone, and unlikely to be shared by my employer, etc...
Subject: Re: Ace Battery Cyclers-difference From: friedrichs@vmssg.enet.dec.com (J. Jeffery Friedrichs) Date: 1996/02/13 Message-Id: <4fqk6t$n0r@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <311ACEEB.1AD3@datadepot.com> Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
In article <311ACEEB.1AD3@datadepot.com>, Art Morgenstern <vinylrt@datadepot.com> writes... >One thing you guys did not mention in reference to the Litco unit. With >more and more use of the 5 cell receiver packs....can it handle those as >well? The Litco Alpha-4 can handle from 1-12 cells in each pack, 10-9999 mAh. Wet and gel cells can be 1-9 cells, 10mAh through 100amp/hours! So yes, it can handle 5 cell receiver packs. I also forgot to mention is can also charge nimh batteries as well. >Are these units built well? I have owned one for about a year now and have not had any problems with it. It is mounted on a wall (mounting hardware not included) so it does not get knocked around at all. I have used it for everything from ni-starters to portable drill packs to portable phone packs, to my 12V 35amp full size airplane battery! All of my other battery chargers just sit on the shelf, unless I need to charge more than 4 packs at once.. Cheers! J. Jeffery Friedrichs Ask me about Young Eagles!! friedrichs@vmsspt.enet.dec.com Sundowner N24005, Luscombe NC71599 ASMEL-IA http://www.mainstream.com/~jeff Nashua, NH
Subject: Re: Ace Battery Cyclers-difference From: carriker@primenet.com (David Carriker) Date: 1996/02/13 Message-Id: <carriker-1302962013010001@ip183.lax.primenet.com> Sender: root@primenet.com References: <311ACEEB.1AD3@datadepot.com> Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet X-Posted-By: ip183.lax.primenet.com Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
> One thing you guys did not mention in reference to the Litco unit. With > more and more use of the 5 cell receiver packs....can it handle those as > well? I have a Litco Multi-Cycle (10 years old) and while it still > works... it is a little on the cheap side and has been back for > (expensive) repair work twice. It is a 110V unit....so it doesn't get > abused...just sits on the bench. Are these units built well? Art, this is David Carriker. You are doing my "Basin Boys Racing" stickers. I have the Alpha 4 with me whenever I am at the Basin. Grab me and I will give you a demo. I've had them all and the Alpha 4 is by far superior to all the others. (I can't speak for the SR Smart Charger though) -- David Carriker carriker@primenet.com Go fast turn left.
Subject: Re: Litco Systems Battery Cycler From: pzirwes@cts.com (Paul Zirwes) Date: 1996/03/13 Message-Id: <4i7jn7$pqr@news3.cts.com> References: <31456c46.1419431@news.enternet.co.nz> Organization: InfoCenter Systems, Inc. Reply-To: pzirwes@cts.com Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air Article Segment 1 of 2 (Get All 2 Segments)
Hi Peter, pete@enternet.co.nz (Peter Leaver) wrote: > As some of my batteries are approaching a few years old, I thought a > battery cycler would be a good idea, so I can find out what sort of > state they are in. I just went through this process and had originally decided to buy the Accucycle. But at the recommendation of several other flyers in this newsgroup, I recently purchased the Litco Alpha 4 battery management system. The data it provides on your battery system is invaluable. > Does anyone have any experience with the Litco Systems Alpha-4 battery > management system? (Which is advertised in RCM fairly regularly). I'm still learning its features, but it works great! You can use it with just about any 12V power source, or the included AC adapter. I particularly like the ability to recharge (or top-off) my packs while I am driving to the airfield; and yes, it's protected against polarity reversal, spikes, and voltage fluxuations on both the power input and charging channels. This voltage protection feature can save your transmitter/reciever circuitry, (or your battery pack) from getting fried. If the main power source is cut-off, the pack plugged into channel #1 is used to back-up the system information until power is restored, then the unit resumes exactly where it left off... try that with the other units! On Monday I took the day off to do some flying. I topped off my packs with the Litco while driving to the field. At 1 p.m., after five, twenty minute flights, I packed up my gear and put everything on fast charge; my gel cell field battery, ni-starter, and tx/rx packs. When I arrived at the field (after picking up Jacob from school) an hour later, everything was recharged and ready for a full afternoon of flying. > Seems like an awsome piece of gear, especially being able to cycle 4 > batteries of any description at once. Besides three intelligent cycling protocols, it can fast field charge using two different protocols, and safely recharge gel/wet cell field batteries, with float. The system can recharge just about any nicd or nimh pack (from 1 to 12 cells) at a true C/10 rate (1 mah accuracy), using an intelligent algorhythm rather than using a stupid sixteen hour timer (ala Ace and Hobbico). Oh, did I forget to mention the built-in ESV and trickle charger? It can do any one of these functions on each of the four charging circuits, simultaneously. It's versatility obviates the need for any other battery charging device, cycler, wet cell charger, or fast field charger, assuming four circuits is enough to meet your needs... > Any help you could give me would be appreciated. Also if someone > living close to Litco could find their fax number that would be great. All this comes at a price: US$199. I talked with Peter at Litco today, and he said to add US$32 for international shipping to New Zealand. If your country doesn't use 110v power, subtract US$10 for the 110VAC to 9.2VAC 3 amp transformer, you'll have to supply your own AC power source. They are available from: Litco Systems, Box 90, East Hanover, NJ 07936; phone: (717) 689-7835 / Fax (717) 689-7394. Payment must be made in US dollars, drawn on a bank that uses a U.S. routing number printed on the bottom of the check. After the six month warranty expires, repair costs are a flat US$52, incl. shipping (maybe more to New Zealand). I'm not particularly thrilled with the warranty terms, especially when compared with Ace's lifetime warranty. But in all other ways, this unit blows everything else I could find right out of the water. When I compare the cost of this unit with its functional equivalents: two cycler/chargers, two fast field-chargers, four wet-cell chargers, and four ESV's, it's really quite a bargain. All this in one tiny 6.25"x6.25"x1.35" package! While the Litco Alpha 4 is not perfect, I'm very pleased with my purchase. If I can answer any of your questions, please feel free to ask! Have fun, Paul ---- From high in the mountains above San Diego...
Subject: Re: Alpha 4 Charger From: Dan Thompson <wb4guk@ix.netcom.com> Date: 1996/05/29 Message-Id: <31AD17C6.4332@ix.netcom.com> References: <4o1o6u$n1k@name1.state.ky.us> <4o3akr$asj@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> <31AAFE56.38A5@cae.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-Ascii Organization: Aircastle Custom Products, Inc. X-Netcom-Date: Wed May 29 7:36:19 PM CDT 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I)
James McEwen wrote: > > marting007@usa.pipeline.com wrote: > > > > > the Alpha 4 system which seems to be one of the most versatile products on > > the market. My only concern with this system is the limited warranty which > > is for only 6 months. Hobbico's systems come with a 2 year warranty and > > Ace's come with a lifetime warranty. I would like to see a little better > > coverage for a product that will set me back $200.00. > > -- > I have one Alpha 4 and am thinking of getting another one. $200 is very reasonable for this unit. If any of you have manufactured a product you will know that you have to build into the price of the unit any income to cover warranty. I am sure that Litco will charge more for each unit if they extend the warranty period. I custom build hardware and software items and I learned the hard way. Litco, keep the 6 month and I will take "MY" chances. BTW, check out Radio Shacks warranty which is typically 90 days. -- Dan Thompson ... -|- Amateur Radio WB4GUK ...-----o-O-o----- J3-N2026M, PA20-N2217A ... / \ AMA 32873 EAA 60974 ... SWPC 215 and Cub Club Be careful of how you treat others today, you might WORK for them tomorrow. My opinions ARE THOSE of Aircastle Custom Products, Inc. Custom Hardware/Software (embedded controller specialist)
Subject: Re: Help on battery charger selection From: bobby108@aol.com (Bobby108) Date: 1995/11/17 Message-Id: <48i198$4q1@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com References: <48ccub$c4t@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: bobby108@aol.com (Bobby108) Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
The only battery charger/cycler that you will ever need is the Litco Alpha 4 I own one and beleive that it is the least expensive microprocessor controlled charger on the market the software in this unit allows you to do anything with your batterys you might think of.. I own one and wish that I had bought one before I bought everything else on the market happy flying Bob Shapiro Lynbrook, NY
Subject: Re: Ace Battery Cyclers - Difference From: friedrichs@vmsspt.enet.dec.com (J. Jeffery Friedrichs) Date: 1996/02/08 Message-Id: <4fdmf0$h26@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <condor1-3101962028110001@lbj07.onramp.net> <4epbi7$a1q@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
In article <4epbi7$a1q@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, queuetip1@aol.com (Queuetip1) writes... >This article is in the battery section of RCM (did Red write it???) and it >covers several brands of battery cyclers. The most highly recommended >appeared to be the Digipace 3. While it is nice to compare the various Ace Digipace units, why bother?? The Litco "Alpha 4" is what you really want. It can deal with 4 devices at any time, each one can be from 1 to 10 cells. It has a variety of charge and cyclers routines, it can even charge your field box wet or gel cell 12V! If you want simple operation, it has a number of default programs of 2 4 cell packs (receiver packs) and 2 8 cell (transmitter) packs. No, it is not as simple as the Ace and Hobbico units, however, if you know how to enter articles here, you can certainly handle the Alpha 4! Yes, it is more expensive (about $200 - direct sales only. Look in the magazines under "Litco") but you can use this to charge your car battery, nicads in the kids toys and anything else! Oh yea, you can also use it as a field charger or in car trickle charge as it works off 120VAC or 12VDC.. Simply the most versatile and useful battery management system available today. (Disclaimer - I'm just a happy customer. If you buy one, and don't like it let me know... I need another one!) Cheers! J. Jeffery Friedrichs Ask me about Young Eagles!! friedrichs@vmsspt.enet.dec.com Sundowner N24005, Luscombe NC71599 ASMEL-IA http://www.mainstream.com/~jeff Nashua, NH
Subject: Re: HELP! Futaba Conquest/Skysport Diode Bypass From: billmoke@aol.com (Bill Moke) Date: 1996/03/07 Message-Id: <4hmmtl$5km@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com References: <4gl13t$bc7@news3.cts.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: billmoke@aol.com (Bill Moke) Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
Paul, it was not a big deal to by-pass the diode in the Futaba super 7. In that case there were two pc board "spare" foil areas that could accept a jumper across the diode. By the way, the LITCO is really neat. I have one also. bill mokoid
Subject: Re: Real-Life NiCad Usage and Charging From: sbixby@crl.com (Steven Bixby) Date: 1996/04/24 Message-Id: <4llo10$5rb@nntp.crl.com> References: <4lkfrk$adc@guyana.it.earthlink.net> Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air
(Martin) wrote: >I am looking for a charger that can fast & slow charge and stop >charging when optimum charge is been obtained. It should also have >the capability to determine the battery perfomrance. There are many >chargers/cyclers out there - Ace Digipace, Hitec CG-325, L.R. Taylor >Power Pacer, Hobbico etc etc etc. >Any favorites out there? Let me know. My favorite (and this is becoming a major FAQ nowadays) is the Litco Alpha 4 system. (Not really a cycler, a SYSTEM!) I use this to fast, slow, trickle & cycle all my nicads, and sometimes even my e-power packs too. Even better, this charger works off of a 12 volt source (included with the unit is a wall-pack power supply for home use). I intend to buy another Gel-Cell battery and installing it into a small "charge box" along with the Apha 4. This box will go out to the field with me on days I think I'll plan to charge radio batteries. (Like flying HLG's with 110mAh packs...) I can get 'dozens' of charges for small packs from a typical 7amp gel cell. And if I need more, I can always use the car battery, although it might be a longer walk back and forth. Plus, I can use the Alpha 4 to charge the gel-cell too, either at the field from the car battery or at home. (Gosh, I love this unit! And I'm in no way affiliated with Litco, either.) ---------------------------------------------------------- -swb- (Steven Bixby, sbixby@crl.com)
Subject: Re: Alpha 4 Charger From: HELIBUF <helibuf@smartdocs.com> Date: 1996/05/20 Message-Id: <31A11FD0.1383@smartdocs.com> References: <4nq3do$o0j@name1.state.ky.us> To: Doug De Yong <ddeyong@plaza.kde.state.ky.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-Ascii Organization: Santa Clarita Rotory Modelers Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I)
Doug De Yong wrote: > > I was at the field yesterday and a couple of > copter guys were talking about charges. > One recommended the Alpha 4 by some > manufacturer named L????????. > the charger / cycler is from litco and its the alpha 4 at only $199 plus connectors for your radio and shipping! just a little over priced but it does just about every thing even though i would like to see a few things different. overall its a do charger/cycler. you can find info in rcm and not to long ago there was a article on it. i have a couple of freinds who own them and love them. -- ======================================================================= * Doug Wilson - Helibuf * * helibuf@smartdocs.com * * http://www.smartlink.net/~helibuf/ * * keep the spinning side spinning, not necessarily right side up! * * The Above Views Are Mine and Mine Alone and Represent Only Me! *
Subject: Re: Alpha 4 Charger From: "John T. Gilmore" <j.gilmor@ix.netcom.com> Date: 1996/05/29 Message-Id: <31ACA95B.426D@ix.netcom.com> References: <4o1o6u$n1k@name1.state.ky.us> <4o3akr$asj@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> <4ob0h9$h1p@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-Ascii Organization: Netcom X-Netcom-Date: Wed May 29 12:53:54 PM PDT 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I)
Dave Tatosian wrote: > > In article <4o3akr$asj@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com>, > marting007@usa.pipeline.com wrote: > >I can't speak for the new Litco Alpha 4 system, but I do have one of their > >original "Multi-Cycle" systems which is still working fine after about 6 > >years (I did have to replace one of the cycler clocks for $10.00). > [snip] > >I too have been considering an upgrade to the Alpha 4 system which seems to > >be one of the most versatile products on the market. My only concern with > >this system is the limited warranty which is for only 6 months. > > 6 months?!? Geezus, with all the chest-pounding the Litco guy posts to this > group, hyping his product and how great it is, not to mention the > verging-on-outrageous price they want for the Alpha-4, you'd think they could > come up with a more competitive warranty... > > Cheers! > > /dave > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > <> Dave Tatosian tatosian@eng.pko.dec.com <> > <> Digital Equipment Corp. Alpha Server Engineering <> > <> "What doesn't kill you...will hurt like heck!" <> > <><><><><><><><><><><><> AMA 548313 <><><><><><><><><><><><>Dave, Litco has no competition, they are simply the best on the market. And I would hardly call $200 verging-on-outrageous. This is a very reasonable price for this quality equipment. Keep on using whatever crappy little charger you like...but when you're ready to come out and play with the big boys...get an Alpha. I don't work for Litco or have anything to do with them, but most of my R/C models are in the $3000.00 range (each) and I don't screw around with cheap chargers, I just buy the best and use it. John
Subject: Litco ALPHA-4ÿ From: steven.evans@syncomm.com (STEVEN EVANS) Date: 1995/10/20 Message-Id: <8B3647F.14E00005B8.uuout@syncomm.com> Distribution: world References: <8B36057.14E00005B2.uuout@syncomm.com> Organization: Synergy Online, Parsippany, NJ (201) 331-1797 Reply-To: steven.evans@syncomm.com (STEVEN EVANS) Newsgroups: rec.models.rc.air X-Mailer: PCBoard/UUOUT Version 1.10
MH> >Litco System's "aLpha 4" charger? Great piece of electronics! Several of our club members own them and they are always needed when all of us go flying (the Alpha of course ;) ) Price is a little expensive; however, get it for a club and split the costs! Charge Cell-phones, cordless phone batteries, Gell- cells, here a NiCad, there a NiCad, oh yea does RC stuff too! Steve. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + ---------------|----------------- + + | /---|------\ Concept 30SX + + --|\-- / -- \ \ "Tis the season to be RC'in" + + | \=========\ \______\ "Flying to the MAX!" + + \------/------------| + + /______ + + / Member #61 of WCWPHH + + ----------- steven.evans@syncomm.com + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ * RM 1.2 * Eval Day 12 *
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