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S. Berliner, III's

Schnabel Railroad Car
Continuation Page 4

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SCHNABEL RAILROAD CARS

(also misspelled "Schnable"* -
by me!)

and other GIANT FREIGHT CARS

(with digressions to highway uses)

[continued]

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BIG LOADS - BIG PICTURES!]

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NOTE:  Page size is limited by HTML to some 30kB; thus, I am forced to separate this page
out from the main schnabel page and from the continuation page 0 and previous page
as a continuation page.

NOTE:  I regret that some of my internal links refuse to work; if they don't, please click "Back" and scroll.


INDEX

On the main Schnabel page:

        Scroll away, plus these specifics -
    Schnabel Diagram.
    Schnabel Car Loading Technique.
    Model Schnabel and other Giant Cars (moved to this Continuation Page 2 on 04 Dec 99).
    Schnabel References (moved to Continuation Page 1 on 14 Sep 02).
    Road/Highway Schnabels - moved to Road Loads page 16 Mar 00.

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 0:

    72-wheel 880-Ton Schnabel Car.
    More about 72-wheel 880-Ton Schnabel Car.
        (moved from Schnabel Continuation Page 2 on 09 Jan 2002)
    Mammoet/ETARCO Mammoth Rail Loads.

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 1:

    Krupp Schnabel Brochure
    CEBX-800 Drawing (NOT!)
    Schnabel References (moved from main schnabel page 1 on 14 Sep 02).

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 2:

        Scroll away, plus these specifics -
    More about 72-wheel 880-Ton Schnabel Car(s).
    (moved to Schnabel Continuation Page 0 on 09 Jan 2002)
    Model Schnabel and other Giant Cars (moved from Main Page, 04 Dec 99).
    Schnabel Miscellany.

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 3:

    More Model Schnabel and other Giant Cars.
    Dave Allen's Concept Models Schnabel Kits.

On this Schnable Continuation Page 4:

    Schnabel Models - continued.
    Dave Allen's Concept Models Schnabel Kits. (moved here 17 Jan 05)
    GEX 80003 - World's Largest Drop-Center Flat Car.
    Nisco Steel move in China. (moved here from Cont. Page 3 on 08 Dec 05)
    Specialized Rail Transport - heavy rail haulers.   rev.gif (11 Nov 09)

On the Schnabel CEBX 800 Page:

    CEBX 800 in Houston - 28 Mar 2005.

On the Road Load page:

    Road/Highway Schnabels - material moved from main RR Schnabel Car page,
    MOVING LOCO #833
    MOVING COKE DRUMS in ALBERTA

On Road Loads Page 2:

    MOVING THE GLENWOOD TANKS
    Mammoet Mammoth Road Loads, plus
        just scroll away.

On the Road Loads Page 3:

    Danly Press
    Miller Transfer
    Road Load Models (moved from page 2 on 01 Mar 05)

Something has to lift these giant loads; see Big Cranes.


Jump to SB,III's RAILROAD Page for a goodly set of RR links

  and to SB,III's MODEL RAILROAD Page for a goodly set of model RR links (yea, verily, forsooth!).


SCHNABEL and other
giant RAILROAD CARS

(and highway variants)

[continued]


If this subject interests you, you must also see Tom Daspit's site, linked below!

* - Spelling of the Name:  SCHNABEL vs. SCHNABLE - "Schnabel" is the KORREKT spelling!  It is the German word for "beak", which I originally thought referred to the beak-shaped loading arms, but now know was the name of the German inventor of the design ca. 1930 or so.  I don't know where or when I started using "Schnable", but it was wrong and I don't mind admitting my error.


Model Schnabel Cars - Continued

    (continued here from More Model Schnabel and other Giant Cars, in turn from Cont. Page 2)

The biggest news as of Jan 2006 is that from Dave Allen's Concept Models (see below); Dave has released the giant GEX 80003 drop-center flat car (and mine is on order)!


Dave Allen's Concept Models Schnabel Kits

    [moved here from More Model Schnabel and other Giant Cars on 17 Jan 06]

Dave Allen's Concept Models produces resin kits of several major Schnabel cars, notably the WECX 102/301, WECX 200, HEPX 200 (Ontario Hydro), and GEX 40010, GEX 40013/14, and GEX 40017.

Dave also offers suitable loads for the specific cars, reactors, generators, transformers, and even the Mt. Palomar mirror for the WECX 200!

Here, by Dave's kind permission, are two of his kits and the finished, decorated models of the WECX 310 and the WECX 200:

CM-WECX102/301 CM-WECX200
(pictures courtesy of Concept Models - by permission - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnailed pictures; click on images for larger pictures]

CM-WECX301 CM-WECX200
(pictures courtesy of Concept Models by - permission - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnailed pictures; click on images for larger pictures]

As of Dec 2005, Concept offers a kit for CE/ABB's CEBX 800, and expects to have one in Jan 2006 for GE's giant GECX 80003 drop-center flat car, both still actively in use, plus one for CEBX 101 as well, available soon.  These kits are not inexpensive but my CEBX 800 is in and well worth the wait!

Here's the CEBX 800 development in progress, the pilot model going together, and the parts and parts list for a half-car:

CM-CEBX800-dev CM-CEBX800-pilot

CM-CEBX800-parts CM-CEBX800-p/l
(pictures courtesy of Concept Models - by permission - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnailed pictures; click on images for larger pictures]

Those black specks threw me; they are lead shot, embedded in the resin casting to give the requisite heft to the model.

Next we see two views of the first decorated half-car (decals are included in the kit):

CM-CEBX800-dec
(picture courtesy of Concept Models - by permission - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnailed picture; click on image for larger picture]

The special, white, heavy-duty, three-outer-spring, 100-ton truck frames, all EIGHTEEN (18) of them, are available as a separate kit (less wheelsets) for those who don't have their own; they take "standard" 38" wheelsets:

CM-CEBX800-truck
(pictures courtesy of Concept Models - by permission - all rights reserved)

Long and short loads and a "running light" (empty) kit (with side plates to hold the load arms together) are also available.

note-rt.gif - the CEBX 800 car is equipped with 38" wheels; modelers can order the proper wheelsets (to fit Dave's truck frames) from Northwest Short Lines as 38" (110mm wheel width) weathered nickel silver wheelsets with pointed axles (4 sets per pack), NWSL 37136-4 (Walthers p/n 53-371364).  You'll need eleven (11) packs, plus another for spare trucks on the support flats, if you so choose (I did).

Also, as Dave does not furnish a tow bar for running light, I made up a drawing for that:

towbardwg
(01/17 Jan 06 drawing by and © 2006 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnailed image; click on drawing for larger image]

Houston, we have a problem!  Poor Dave has been told by an "expert" that CEBX 800 is equipped with 33" wheels, not 38" wheels, and that he was over where she's stored and measured them - 33"!  No way, sez I; if Krupp shows 38" on their drawings, which they do (Ø 965.2 / 38" DIA - and 965.2mm = exactly 38"), then you can be absolutely assured that that's what she runs on.  You can't get much more specific than that; besides, my original Krupp brochure, now mislaid, called out 38" wheels (but that's only on my say-so).  It would be stupid to swap out 38"-ers for 33"-ers because the side frames would sit far too low; besides, why make a giant truck frame for small wheels.  Since I can't just run over and check, I took one of Peter Robitaile's detail shots, lightened and rotated it, and superimposed dimension lines based on the known 6' (72") truck wheelbase:

CEBX 800 Wheel Dims.
(31 Jan 06 drawing by and © 2006 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
{on background cropped from P. Robitaille photo}
[Thumbnailed image; click on drawing for larger image]

Measure it out for yourself!

I also got my first package of NWSL 38" wheels today (31 Jan 06), so I fitted three of Dave's truck frames (raw) with a pair of the new NWSL 38" wheelsets, a pair of Kadee 36" wheelsets (from my mock-up), and a pair of Athearn 33" wheelsets (originally from the trucks used on the mock-up and which I'll use on GEX 80003); see for yourself how silly the 33"-ers look:

HO CEBX 800 Truck with Wheelsets
(31 Jan 06 photo by and © 2006 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Decide for yourself; I'm going with 38".

Here's a doctored crop from an Orazio photo of CEBX 800 with a caboose coupled directly that shows the difference quite clearly, even allowing for the distortion of a shallow-angle telephoto shot:

HO CEBX 800 and Caboose Wheels
(crop from Orazio photo doctored by SB,III 31 Mar 08 - all rights reserved)

Those big wheels on CEBX 800 tower over the caboose wheels; let's give it a rest, now.


The GEX 80003 drop-center flat car (the largest in the world) is the one that was off-loading a GE generator when the Jumbo heavy-lift ship Stellamare turned over as the load overswung in the port of Albany, New York on 09 Dec 2003 (with a loss of three Russian crewmen).  Dave's model kit is now available (and mine is in and fab!); here's the first fit-up and the resultant model (which runs on standard 33" wheels):

GEX80003fitup GEX80003model
(pictures courtesy of Concept Models - by permission - all rights reserved)

Incidentally, Weeks Marine's huge 750-ton #533 floating crane both picked up the Stellamare and loaded similar 308-ton GE generators on/off GEX 80003:

Weeks-11 Weeks-035
[Photos courtesy of Weeks Marine, Inc., by permission - all rights reserved]
(Click on thumbnailed images for larger pictures]

Here's a cropped enlargement of the car alone:

Weeks-035enlarg
[Cropped enlargement of photo courtesy of Weeks Marine, Inc., by permission - all rights reserved]
(Click on thumbnailed image for larger picture]

Are those guys on the ropes gonna hold back 300+ tons?  Note that the shed housing the off-setting gear is off (left end).


Nisco Steel Move in China

(moved here from Cont. Page 3 on 08 Dec 2005)

Here are two that are new to me; Brian Cooper sent me these views of the move of two 350 metric tonne roll housings for the 3.5m plate steckel mill at the Nisco Steel Works in Nanjing in central China (a steckel mill reduces steel plate from 300mm (12") cast slabs down to 4mm (¼") for ship plate, structural steels and pipe stock.  The housings were cast and machined by China First Heavy Engineering company in northeast China and were supposedly delivered by two Schnabel cars designed and detailed by Siemens VAI in Sheffield, UK [with my uninformed captions]:

NiscoTrackwork NiscoShopTruck
(photos courtesy of B. Cooper - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnailed pictures; click on images for larger pictures]

Trackwork (that'll get your hydraulics working!) / Shop Truck {automotively speaking}

That truck sure looks like what's left of an old WWII British artillery tractor to my untutored eye; it runs on an old single-cylinder engine from a dump truck (must have been quite a dump truck!).

NiscoArrival NiscoAlongside
Arrival of housing / Coming alongside the shop
{Clearly NOT a Schnabel car; appears to have the housing inside}

NiscoEasing-in NiscoUnloading
(photos courtesy of B. Cooper - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnailed pictures; click on images for larger pictures]

Easing into the shop / Unloading
Now, THAT is a Schnabel!
{I would suggest that the crated item shown is one of the rolls, NOT the housing}

Only one little problem, unless I misread the photos; one car is clearly a Schnabel whil(e)(st) the other is clearly either a gigantic well flat or even a through-well flat (more of an enormous, stretched out, multi-trucked gondola, with or without a floor).

Brian sent along four more shots of the Nisco operation; they are not Schnabel car photos but do give an impression of the sheer size of the housing and the clever jury-rigging the Chinese utilize to keep costs down (especially the rigging of a ceiling beam in the last picture):

NiscoDoorway NiscoTouchdown NiscoDropping NiscoRigging
(photos courtesy of B. Cooper - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnailed pictures; click on images for larger pictures]

In the Doorway / Touchdown / Dropping the Housing / Rigging (on a shoestring)
{indoor photos artificially lightened}

Clever, these Chinese!


Specialized Rail Transport (a member of the Cooper Group), headquartered in Houston, Texas, [http://www.srt.cc/], manages stand-alone rail projects or integrated shipments involving barge and/or land transportation.  Through the courtesy of SRT;s president, Bob Felix, I am able to present highlights of their operations on my site, such as:   new.gif (13 Apr 09)

SRTattach-7.jpg SRT15 SRT16
(photos courtesy of SRT - all rights reserved)
Captions - left to right:

Left - The CEBX 800 made an appearance at the Port of Houston where she was loaded with a 600-Ton vessel bound for Colorado.  Specialized Rail Transport's parent company, Cooper/T. Smith, was involved in the preparation and loading of the piece at The Port of Houston's City Docks.  SRT was involved in the empty transport of the car from South Carolina, storage in Houston, coordination with the PTRA, UP, and BNSF, and furnished two cabooses, two idler cars, and a flatcar loaded with spare parts containers, as well as handling the return of the empty car to Duluth, Minnesota.

Center - Heading South - Apr 09 - When a customer needing to move two vessels each weighing 621,000 lbs. at 14' wide, SRT found a solution to get them to a Gulf port for their overseas voyage.  Overcoming clearance hurdles, timing issues, and coordinating with other methods of transport were a few of the challenges overcome during this project.  In the end, the vessels arrived at the appropriate port on schedule and rail proved to be the most effective method of transport, once again.

Right - Customary Customs - Dryer to Canada - When a client needed to move a Rotary Dryer from the United States to Canada, SRT jumped into action to prepare and manage the rail transportation.  This dryer weighed a little over 260,000 lbs., but presented some clearance issues at 13'6" wide. SRT worked with the customer to secure the track agreement with the railroad and assisted with issues relating to customs clearances, as is very common with international shipments.  SRT also worked closely with the customer to design the transport saddles and securement.  Even though weather slowed everything down, the shipment still delivered ahead of schedule.

Thanks again to the great courtesy of SRT President Bob Felix, we get a look at his new 20-axle, 450-ton, depressed 40' deck flat car, Kasgro KRL 204002, a'buildin':   new.gif (11 Nov 09)

SRT/KRL204002
(photo courtesy of SRT - all rights reserved)
[Click on thumbnailed picture for larger (~580Kb) image]

Bob bought the two cabooses (cabeese? hacks?) that were with CEBX 800, PHNX101 and 102, and is rebulding them; here they are as they are being rebuilt:

SRT/PHNX101&102
(photo courtesy of SRT - all rights reserved)

Here are some Photoshop-type design studies of how to decorate them:

SRTHack1 SRTHack2
SRTHackEnd
(photos courtesy of SRT - all rights reserved)

Bob was also kind enough to send along interior shots of the fine work two carpenters and SRT people are doing:

SRTHackInt2 SRTHackInt3 SRTHackInt7
(photos courtesy of SRT - all rights reserved)
[Click on thumbnailed pictures for larger images]

SRT riders travel in style!  Can't wait to see what loads 204002 will carry!


Another very heavy transport job, of the WWI era, was the movement of heavy gun barrels, such as by Krupp in Europe as typified by the shot from Tom Daspit, who sent along this one and incredible shots of U. S. Naval rail guns of WWI vintage:   new.gif (11 Aug 09)

kruppgun usnrrgun1
(Photos from the collection of T. Daspit - all rights reserved

That first (left) is a large-caliber gun on a heavy, 16-axle Fried. Krupp railcar; it seems to have four 4-axle trucks, one under the muzzle and two under a span bolster under the breech.

The next (right) shows a party of civilians, including some ladies dressed for hot weather, observing a Navy gun crew and some techs. or engineers apparently readying the gun for tests.  But, what I find intensely interesting are the two huge turntables in the left foreground (or could they be faceplates for giant engine lathes or turret rotating ring milling machines?).

    [more of the Navy gun photos at Railguns.]



I'm NOT depressed, just feeling flat, sort of like I'm in a well,
as if my center had dropped, through, heavy,
split and loaded down - too much on my plate.
I need to shift my load and inch through, if my plate has clearance.
Only joking!


Look also at the main schnabel page, et seq.


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