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BOXCAB
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There are now more than fifty (50) BOXCAB pages;
see the main Boxcabs page and the Boxcabs INDEX.
This site has now been visited 
times since the counter was installed.
PAGE INDEX:
GE Boxcab Page
GE 20/23-ton Boxcabs.
ALCo and GE Shovelnoses
Chiriqui Land Co. Miniboxcabs
Surviving GE Electric Boxcabs.
GE Boxcab Continuation Page 1
Survivor 1893 GE Electric #1 / MfrsRR #1.
This GE Boxcab Continuation Page 2
GE-716 Truck.
(15 Sep 05)
[First of all, I want to credit Bill Russell, Penny Bridge;
we seem to be linking back and forth but he has the most compendious site about
NY-area railroading, where most boxcabs lurked, with tons of information.
Second, take a look at Mark Laundry's
Yard Limit Diesel Switcher Spotter's and Reference Guide, a site about early
diesel switchers, especially a 1994 paper by Benn Coifman on "
The Evolution of the Diesel Locomotive in the United States", with an excellent
history of the ALCo-GE-IR consortium, as well as McKeen, Westinghouse/Baldwin,
Hamilton/EMC/EMD, and Pullman's efforts.]
Since Sep 00, there has been an extremely detailed and accurate site focusing
exclusively on the earliest history of the ALCo-GE-IR (AGEIR) locos, the late
John F. Campbell's "
ALCO / General Electric / Ingersoll-Rand (AGEIR) Diesel-Electric Locomotives"
site; I heartily recommend it to you! John Campbell added a
complete roster of all the ALCo-GE-IR boxcab locos built in the first production
run, totalling 33 units, from 1925 to 1930, but not the later Bi- and Tri-Power or GE-IR
units.
GE Boxcabs - Continued:
Because these pages keep overloading as more and more information dribbles (or
crashes) in, I am forced to create new pages. There were a whole slew of
General Electric boxcab locomotives that did NOT fit the standard
AGEIR (ALCo-GE-IR) mold and they are/will be covered on the main GE
Boxcabs page and here as I move what already exists on my site to these
pages and add new information.
Among the biggest and last "regular" boxcabs GE built, were a pair of odd
transfer locomotives for the Illinois Central in 1936, #9200 and #9201; they
are covered on the main GE Boxcabs
page, but they had a unique truck design with Talgo-style coupler
mounting:
(15 Sep 05)
(Image of #9201 from Train Shed #20)
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The GE traction motor model number for both units was GE-716, with 62:15
gearing to 39" wheels. A correspondent is interested in these trucks and
their development, but hasn't seen any textual info. anywhere on them.
They appear to be the direct predecessor of General Steel Castings trucks
later found under Baldwin, and some FM, locos, but are quite unique to the
#9200 and #9201; the upper inner ends of the side frames are sloped down to
clear the carbody frame, whereas the GSC trucks all have flat tops on the side
frames.
From early GE files, here are some drawings and documents about the GE-716
trucks (I note that GE used the hyphen); I could not make out the margins and
so cropped them down to the images and text. They are pixellated but
are as good as I got. First the outline drawing, P-4740789, the date of
which I can't read but it appears to have been revised into the 1940s:
(15 Sep 05)
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Next are the longitudinal cross section drawing, TT-6751754, and the
transverse section drawing, T-756685, again with illegible dates:
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[The latter was a blueprint (or, at least, a whiteline image on a black
background);
that holds no magic for me so I am showing it as a whiteprint.]
These are various forms, Form 600 and others, relating to the GE-716 trucks,
dated 1935-37:
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Note that the last image also includes info. on the 5GE-716 #1 truck first used
on the CB&Q.
[I am sorry to give these short shrift; this level of detail exceeds my
interest level. If anyone cares to give me excerpted highlights, I may
post same.]
There are now more than fifty (50) BOXCAB pages;
see the main Boxcabs page and the Boxcabs INDEX.
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S. Berliner, III
To contact S. Berliner, III, please click here.
To tour the Boxcabs pages in sequence, the arrows take you from the main Boxcabs page, to the Boxcabs index, the first Boxcabs page, and on to continuation pages 3 and 4, then 100-tonner LIRR #401 and her sisters, survivor boxcabs (with map) and survivor notes, survivor CNJ #1000 (the very first), Ingersoll-Rand boxcabs (with instruction manual), this GE boxcabs page, other (non-ALCo/GE/I-R) boxcabs, Baldwin-Westinghouse boxcabs, odd boxcabs, and finally model boxcabs.
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2005
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