PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD
The PENNSY
PRR
times since the counter was installed.
NOTE: 07 Apr 99 - I gave up! I had avoided a Pennsy page as long as I could but there comes a time when some things just can't be avoided.
Because of page size limitations, this page is now continued on PRR Continuation Pages 1 and 2.
This is more of an INDEX page than anything else, although I may well add tidbits for Pennsy fans here and there.
(28 Feb 05)
(20 Sep 04)
(09 May 05)
@ Cary Locomotive Works
(cont'd).
Bowser Manufacturing, Incorporated.
My own LIRR pages may be of interest, as well (the Pennsy owned the LIRR from 1904 to 1966, having bought it out to gain access to Sunnyside Yard for Pennsylvania Station, and see also the Steinway System).
Visit these courtesy and official home pages:
Long Island Rail Road Historical Society
Long Island Sunrise - Trail Chapter
(National Railway Historical Society)
Sunrise Trail Division
(Northeastern Region)
(National Model Railroad Association)
(all new links)
(07 Feb 05)
The PRRT&HS Philadelphia Chapter runs a fantastic PRR Discussion Forum.
[Fans of Pennsy relative NYNH&HRR will be pleased to hear that the New Haven Railroad Historical and Technical Association, Inc. (NHRHTA) now has "THE NHRHTA NEW HAVEN RAILROAD FORUM"
One site that really got me, however, is Rob Schoenberg's, on which he has a PRR station sign maker, which allows you to assemble a Pennsy-style station sign in color, letter by letter. I'm trying to go Rob one better by adding a space, a hyphen, and an apostrophe. He has since superimposed a keystone outline (ya gotta have a keystone to make it a REAL make-believe Pennsy station sign!).
Rob also has on his site most of the PRR Equipment Diagrams! These are detailed below under PRR Links.
Also, for Pennsy fans with good imaginations (or strong stomachs), ya gotta see my Berlinerwerke Apocrypha page and its continuation page 2!
The rest of the links are down below (click here to jump down).
I've finally added the Continuation Page 1, with Dimensions of the Horseshoe Curve, a mile-by-mile and even foot-by-foot guide to the Curve with actual (1:1) and HO scale (1:87.1) dimensions, and now Dimensions of the Horseshoe Curve in N (1:160) and Z (1:220) Scales to my Horseshoe Curve Continuation Page 3.
On my Model Railroad page 4, I added a Railroad Grades chart, with the major Horseshoe Curve grades included.
Also, on the Continuation Page 2, you'll now find an UPDATE of the BERLINERWERKE (HO) Saga.
If you think the huge Pennsy eight- and ten-coupled duplexes are big, they only ran around 25' - 27' rigid wheelbase; specifically:
Q1 4-6-4-4 26' 10" S1 6-4-4-6 26' 6" Q2 4-4-6-4 26' 4½" T1 4-4-4-4 25' 4" J1 2-10-4 24' 4" I1 2-10-0 22' 8" N2 2-10-2 22' 4" N1 2-10-2 22' 2"with the other long-legged PRR ten-coupled engines shown just for reference. However, the UP's Union Pacific class 4-12-2 engines measured a whopping 30' 8" (368"), the longest rigid wheelbase ever! See my ALCo page for more on the UP giants.
Penn Station fans should see the write up about Lorraine Diehl's fantastic ode to "The Late, Great Pennsylvania Station" on my NRHS/LIST page.
Hoorah! A new Penn Station (in NYC) has been authorized! See my LIRR page.
Hoorah, INDEED! I found out from the
PRRT&HS Discussion Web that PRR Class P5 boxcab electric motor #4700
survives at the Museum of Transportation in St. Louis! I missed it when I was
there; it is not mentioned on their site and I am trying to get more information for
here and my boxcabs pages. No streamlined P5a
Modified units were saved.
The Infamous G½ (half GG1)
The PRR G½ - yes, Virginia, there really was a half-GG1
running around! Here she is, #4846, after having been wrecked, cut
short (actually a wee bit more than in half), and fitted with a rear coupler and
a diaphragm (with a rear light) to close the opening:
Dig those craaaazy fish-eye bay windows!
O.K., I blew up the underbody detail and enhanced it; sure looks like a blower nozzle to me:
For Garratt fans (if you don't know what a Garratt is, or what Beyer or Peacock
mean, you REALLY must look up this link), see Gavin Hamilton's
inclusive "A Complete list of
all Garratt Locomotives" site.
PRR Paint Color Codes
The official PRR paint color codes, with Du Pont automotive finish line numbers, which
can be mixed by any auto paint jobber, have been moved to
PRR page 2.
As a corollary to paint, these abbreviations are good to know:
(01 May 05)
I contacted the PRRT&HS and Bill Kiesel, IV (grandson of the great PRR designer), to little avail; does anyone have the straight poop here?
PRR Class I1sa Decapod #4483
,
(and Class 90F82 short-haul 8-wheel tender #4485
Here she is at Hamburg, NY, in Apr 2001, courtesy of photographer Scott Hawbaker and from the WNYRHS site by specific permission, in all her cosmetically-restored glory:

They have a fantastic show and also pull each Memorial Day and 04 Jul weekend, and operate the 1901 PRR B4a switch engine and a real steam calliope. For a few bucks you can ride on a flatcar with benches OR caboose (with cupola), or, for a few more, IN THE CAB!
From B. F. Smith's Pennsy web page:
Click here to go to a tiny photo on Dr. Smith's page 7 and here for his color photo of the B4a.
What's so odd about this engine, other than that it survived at all and still steams, is that it is almost impossible to find on the great Websites devoted to the Pennsy!
Thomas J. von Trott has a current write-up and color photo on his 643 page.
In Paul Carleton's early (ca. 1970) book "Pennsy, A to T", he notes that #643 "was found at an abandoned steel mill in Harrisburg, Pa., and was bought by enthusiasts". Now, THAT's enthusiasm!
Well, she's not operating now! I was at Steam Fair on Labor Day 2003 (01
Sep) and #643 is stripped down (photos are on
PRR page 0); they are operating with a tiny Whitcomb diesel sporting
#643's whistle (or one like it). Seems that not having any public
highway crossings, they are not covered by the NRA Boiler Code but, rather,
by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania's DoT, whose boiler inspection is more
rigorous and she flunked! Her backhead has some thin spots and her
rating was dropped to 80#, which is enough for their minimal operation but NOT
enough for the air brakes! So, down she went and the smokebox was found
to be a rusted disaster; it was almost rotted through where the spark arrestor screen
support meets the smokebox barrel (just above where the the steam pipes enter the
valve chambers) and those areas have been cut out. They'll be rebuilt and a
new backhead will be fabricated and fitted.
PRR Modeling - moved on 25 Nov 2004 to
PRR Modeling (including Penn Line and Cary)
(25 May 04)
[Cary was Don Stromberg's Cary Locomotive Works of Cary, Illinois, which was sold out to Bowser ca. 1980-85.]
I may not be a confirmed Pennsy "nut" but my sister (who lives in Enola) sure had me pegged on my 57th birthday (lo, these many moons ago):
(Photo by and © 2000 - S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
(O.K. - why 21 bolts?)
For me, the première site must always be that of the
The Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania.
The Altoona Railroaders Memorial Museum.
Allegheny Portage Railroad National Historic Site.
Dr. D. Mark Bej's Pennsylvania Railroad - PRR home page.
Robert Schoenberg's Rob's PRR page, with most of the PRR Equipment Diagrams! These include diagrams for:
B. F. Smith's Pennsylvania Railroad Page (PRR).
Chris Brandt's (PRR) Homepage.
Mike's Pennsy's Home Pages (from Australia).
The PENNSYLVANIA Pages... Links.
George Elwood's great PRR Photos site.
and, last but not least,
Author Lorraine Diehl's The Late, Great Pennsylvania Station site; see the write up about Lorraine Diehl's fantastic ode to "The Late, Great Pennsylvania Station" on my NRHS/LIST page.
There is also a photo of a ca. 1923 Pennsy double-ended crane for tunnel service, rated at only 50 tons at 17 foot boom extension on my Big Cranes page, which I have reproduced here:

(23 Jan 05)
Artist and fellow NRHS/Long Island Sunrise Trail Chapter
member George L. Wybenga is so taken with cabooses (cabeese? - hacks, crummys,
cabin cars, etc.) that he specializes in limning them and has a Website,
cabooseart.com where you can see his vast array of cabooses from many varied
roads, among them the PRR. Here, by his specific permission, is his painting of
LIRR hack #14, just as an example of his work:
(23 Jan 05)

For tall tales of the Berlinerwerke and its equipment and such (much of which is PRR or PRR-ish,
visit the Berlinerwerke Apocrypha page, et seq.
To contact S. Berliner, III, please click here.
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