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NOTE: Page size is limited by HTML to some 30kB; thus, I've been forced to add this continuation page to fit the LIRR and related information and even ano continuation page.
You may wish to visit my RR page, as well.
Also, LILS - the Long Island Live Steamers courtesy page had to be moved to a separate page.
There are two related topics here on these pages:
(1) The Long Island Rail Road and (2) Long Island railroad information.
There IS a difference!
The Long Island Rail Road is the official name of the oldest Class 1 railroad still operating under its original name and charter (the B&O was older but has been subsumed into CSX). Although there remain some offical documents with the two words combined, the correct name of the LIRR has the two words separately, "Long Island Rail Road"!
There were and are other railroads on Long Island - these also are (or will be) covered on the LI Railroads page.
NOTE: To conserve space, I have severely truncated the index on this page; click HERE to go directly to a separate, full LIRR index page.
Start with the first LIRR page:
On the LIRR Continuation Page 2:
On this LIRR Continuation Page 3:
On the LIRR Continuation Page 4:
On the LIRR Continuation Page 5:
On the LIRR Continuation Page 6:
On the LI Railroads Continuation Page:
Also see:
Speaking of live steamers, here's the General on the Hell Gate viaduct:

Here she is on 16 Feb 99 (there's a Pennsy position light signal and a three-light dwarf ground signal to the right) looking southeast and east and northwest:

(The material here was moved to LIRR page 6 on 17 Sep 01 to make room for more detail on other stations here
and to allow room for dimensional details which appear on page 6. Larger images are also there.)
They, and their vanished predecessors, are well documented in Ron Ziel's book, "Victorian Railroad Stations of L.I.", noted in the LIRR Bibliography.
Of these, in which I have little abiding interest, I used to pass one almost every working day and currently live, as I have for many years, only a few blocks from another, both recently fully restored.
They are, respectively, the East Williston Station in (remarkably) East Williston and the Sea Cliff Station in (doesn't it figure) Glen Cove.
The present East Williston Station was built around 1880 (no exact record remains - per V. Seyfried).
A gentleman, retired to the South, asked where he could obtain photos of the East Williston Station to model it faithfully in HO and, I, Mr.-Nice-Guy, took the new digital SLR and a Stanley Powertape and documented the station for him. It seemed only logical and fair to make all that available to the public. The light was lowering; rain on the way. Good time to shoot architectural details; no shadows.
So, here it is, in glorious living techni(cal) color (the tracks on the left are running E/B, almost due north here):
First row - 01, 02, 03, and 04
[Thumbnail images - click on the pictures for the full (150Kb avg.) images.
Info. and photographs (ca. 17 Jun 99) by and © 1999 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved]
I put my tape from brick to brick. The dimensions are quite exact (the compass directions are based on the line going north-south, not true compass points, where EB runs north and WB runs south):
Here's a valuation drawing of the station from 1916:KEY to PICTURE LOCATION DIRECTION SUBJECT First row - 01 EB Platform NNE South Wall 02 Station Plaza NNW South Wall 03 Street W East Wall 04 Across Street W East Wall Second row - 05 Street SSE North Wall 06 SE Crossing Gate S North Wall 07 SW Crossing Gate SSW North Wall 08 SB Platform E West Wall Third row - 09 SB Platform NNE South Wall 10 Parking Lot NE SW Corner Detail under Shed 11 Parking Lot NE SE Corner Detail under Roof 12 Parking Lot N SW Corner Detail under Roof DIMENSIONS (all are from sharp brick edge to sharp brick edge): PICTURE DIMENSION SPECIFICS 1,2 168¾" West Wall to East Wall on South Wall. 4 106" South Wall to South Edge of Door in East Wall. 42" Door in East Wall. 36" N. Edge of Door in E. Wall to S. Edge of Window. 34" Window in East Wall. 36" N. Edge of Window in E. Wall to North Wall. --- 254" East Wall overall. 5,6,7 68" East Wall to East Edge of Window in North Wall. 33½" Window in North Wall. 68½" West Edge of Window in North Wall to West Wall. --- 170" North Wall overall (so it isn't quite true, 1¼" in 21' isn't bad!) 6 102½" Sidewalk to Top of Brick under Shed Trim above Door in East Wall (not visible, but defines height to underside of shed) 6 87" Sidewalk to Underside of Shed Roof at East Edge (behind gutter)

(20 Feb 05)

[There is a small ray of light; parties in the Village want to rebuild it!]
(31 Oct 05)
East Williston done, I documented my beautiful Sea Cliff Avenue Station next. It really shouldn't be called Sea Cliff Station; it's in Glen Cove, one of three!
The present brick Sea Ciff Station was opened in May 1888 and cost a whopping $4,000! The trolley to Sea Cliff village ran from 02 Jul 02 to 31 Dec 24 and was extended to Glen Cove in 1905 (per V. Seyfried).
First row - 01, 02, 03, and 04
[Thumbnail images - click on the pictures for the full (~150Kb avg.) images.
Info. and photographs (11 Aug 99) by and © 1999 S. Berliner, IIII - all rights reserved]
KEY to
PICTURE DIMENSION SPECIFICS
08 East Wall to West Wall on South Wall:
63½" SE Corner to E Window
38" E Window.
61¾" between windows.
38" W Window.
63¾" W Window to SW Corner.
02 South Wall to North Wall on West Wall:
1031/8" SW Corner to S Window.
381/8" S Window.
79¼" S Window to W Door.
39½" Door in West Wall.
77¾" W Door to N Window.
38¼" N Window.
104¼" N Window to NW Corner.
04/5 West Wall to East Wall on North Wall:
64" NW Corner to W Window.
38½" W Window.
59½" between windows.
38½" E Window.
65" E Window to NE Corner.
13 North Wall to South Wall on East Wall
(including old ticket window bay):
37½" NE Corner to N Window.
38" N Window.
33" between windows.
38" S Window.
06 21¼" S Window to NW Corner of Bay.
7¾" NW Corner to N Window.
32" N Window on Bay.
20" N Window to NE Corner of Bay.
32½" NE Corner on Bay to Double Window.
14 80½" Double Window on Bay.
(36¼" N Window on E Wall of Bay.)
( 8" wood pillar between Windows on E Wall of Bay.)
(36¼" S Window on E Wall of Bay.)
32" Double Window to SE Corner of Bay.
07 19¾" SE Corner of Bay to S Window.
32½" S Window.
8" S Window to SW Corner of Bay.
27" SW Corner of Bay to E Door.
40" Door in East Wall.
32" E Door to S Window.
38" S Window.
32" S Window to SE Corner.
08 and back to South Wall.
VERTICAL DIMENSIONS:
21 1. Stone window sills (top) 40½" above terrace on
W Wall and 43" on N Wall. Windows 83" high.
13 2. E Door on 7" high stone stoop.
02 3. Both Doors 84½" high plus 32" to underside of top
07 of transom window above.
SHED ROOF DIMENSIONS:
05 1. W Overhang - 68" from W Wall (estimated).
05 2. E Overhang - 12" from E Wall of Bay (estimated).
05 3. N Pillar Spacing - from NE Corner to C/L of Pillars
122½", 241¾", and 363¼" (outer).
04 4. S Pillar Spacing - from SW Corner to C/L of Pillars
121½", 238½", and 355½" (outer).
5. Pillars flush with E and W walls, 5½" square.
19 6. Height to underside of N-S Lower Timbers - 113½" (appr.).
19 7. Height to underside of E-W Lower Timbers - 125½" (appr.).
STATION SIGNS:
04 20" high by 84" (appr.) wide,
08 hung 6" below underside of E-W Timbers.
HORIZONTAL DIMENSIONS (all are from sharp brick edge to sharp brick edge,


These images may be all well and good but they soak up far too much storage space on my server for my limited interest in stations.
I only just (Aug 00) realized that the old Glen Head Station, now replaced by a dinky building and a high level shed, was once as ornate and beautiful as the Sea Cliff Station! Ah, progress!
If you are interested in stations, see Charles Woolever's Existing RR Stations in New York State site.
To contact S. Berliner, III, please click here.
To tour the Long Island railroads pages in sequence, the arrows take you from the previous page to the LIRR index, to the first LIRR page, and on to LIRR continuation pages 2, and up, then to the other LI railroads page, and lastly to the LIRR Historical Society page. Follow links to yard maps and related pages and sites.
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