PN #5103 Survivor Electric Boxcab Page
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Updated:  16 Aug 2004, 12:30  ET
(Created 01 Jan 2003)
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Piedmont Northern (PN)
#5103 SURVIVOR
1913 G.E. ELECTRIC BOXCAB

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Piedmont Northern (PN)
#5103 SURVIVOR
1913 G.E. ELECTRIC BOXCAB

(Page separated out from the main Electric Boxcabs Page on 01 Jan 03,
thus becoming my 279th page, the 51st Boxcabs page!)

There are now more than fifty (50) BOXCAB pages;
see the main Boxcabs page and the Boxcabs INDEX.

This site has now been visited times since the counter was installed.

BOXCAB BIBLIOGRAPHY is at the end of Continuation Page 3.


PAGE INDEX:

On the main Electric Boxcabs page:
  ELECTRIC BOXCABS
1893 GE #1 / MfrsRR #1 - moved to its own page 01 Jan 03.
Piedmont & Northern #5103
    (moved to Electric Boxcab (Survivors) Continuation Page 3 on 11 Jun 02
        and to this, its own page, on 01 Jan 03.
ELECTRIC BOXGON!

On the Electric Boxcab (Survivors) Continuation Page 1:
  ELECTRIC BOXCABS - Part 2, with
GE #1/MfrsRR #1 History (continued),
        and moved to its own page on 01 Jan 03.
St. Clair Tunnel Electric Boxcabs,
    Mystery Canadian G.E. Electric Boxcab (no it's not!)
        and moved to its own page on 01 Jan 03.
Chilean Boxcabs, and
Other Overseas Electric Boxcabs

On the Electric Boxcab (Survivors) Continuation Page 2:

So. Bklyn #4.
        moved to its own page on 01 Jan 03.
L&PS #L1 and #L2.
        moved to this, its own, page on 01 Jan 03.
Butte, Anaconda & Pacific.
        moved to its own page on 01 Jan 03.

On the Electric Boxcabs (Survivors) Continuation Page 3:

Piedmont & Northern #5103
moved there from the main Electric Boxcabs page 11 Jun 02
        and moved to its own (this) page on 01 Jan 03.

Still on Continuation Page 5:
  ODD BOXCABS

AIR BOXCAB!
STEAM BOXCABS!
  ODDER BOXCABS


Piedmont Northern (PN)
#5103 SURVIVOR
1913 G.E. ELECTRIC BOXCAB

(Moved from the main Electric Boxcabs and Electric Boxcabs Continuation Page 3 on 03 Jan 2003.)

Now, let's consider the Piedmont & Northern classic electric boxcab #5103 noted on the Survivors page, preserved at the North Carolina Transportation Museum's historic Spencer Shops in Salisbury, North Carolina.  She's a beauty (if you like boxcabs) and appears largely original; she's a sort of southern dual-power loco, sporting both a huge pantagraph AND a trolley pole!  Here is the Museum's postcard view (the card is available from their Gift Station):

P&N #5103 Postcard

and en-route to, and arriving at, the Museum:

P&N #5103 1 P&N #5103 2 P&N #5103 3
(left picture {only} is a thumbnail image; click on picture for larger image)
[All four pictures reproduced by specific permission of NCTM; all rights reserved to NCTM.]

She sure looks like a classic General Electric boxcab, a 60-tonner with end platforms.

Because the Museum kindly sent more information than could fit on the main Electric Boxcabs page, I moved #5103 coverage to a new Electric Boxcabs continuation page 3 but then decided it deserved its own page.

The NCTM, a North Carolina Historic Site, is in Spencer, just off I-85 near Salisbury, and just south of Winston-Salem.

Here's a home-grown very-big (100-ton) brother (#5602?) built by the P&N shops using Westinghouse equipment:   rev.gif (restored 16 Aug 04)

P&N  #5602
(photo from
TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA #15)
[Thumbnailed image - click on picture for larger image]

Whadda monster to have both pan and pole!  Unfortunately, she is NOT a survivor.

The NCTM came through magnificently with the following description of #5103 (given verbatim):

"Piedmont and Northern Boxcab 5103 - Built by the General Electric in 1913 as an electric locomotive.  Power was supplied either through a 600-volt D.C. trolley pole or a 1500-volt D.C. overhead catenary shoe.  The P&N was the only mainline Class 1 railroad in the south to use electric locomotives.  They also had a divided right-of-way, with part operating Charlotte to Belmont, NC and the other Spartanburg to Greenwood, SC.  The 5103 worked first in SC then ended its service running old trolley tracks in downtown Charlotte in 1958.  The 5103 was chosen to be restored by the P&N at their Greenville, SC shops in 1963 and donated to the Atlanta, NRHS Chapter.  The NCTHC purchased the locomotive in 1995, to be placed on display in the roundhouse to interpret this unique railroad owned by James Duke."

From other Museum sources, the NC Transportation Museum in Spencer, NC has P&N #5103 on display in the roundhouse.  It came from the Southeastern Railroad Museum in Duluth, GA, purchased in 1994/95.  It is a true boxcab, able to draw from the catenary or 600 volt trolley pole.  The 5103 and 5101 were the last two P&N boxcabs left when the railroad took these two and made one complete unit for donation in 1963, after diesels had taken over.  NCTM obtained the locomotive since it operated in the Charlotte area during the late 1950s.

"NCTHC" was The North Carolina Transportation History Corporation,
now the The North Carolina Transportation Museum Foundation,
"chartered in 1977 as a non-profit support group to assist in fund raising and the acquisition and restoration of artifacts.
Since its formation, NCTMF has acquired well over $2 million in rare transportation artifacts
and has made possible their restoration and display."
The NCTM is in historic Rowan County and is one of 23 historic sites operated by
The North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources.}

Our sincere appreciation to the NCTM for their many courtesies!

The NCTM has "threatened" to send me even more information about #5103!  Stay tuned.

Readers interested in Ontario's railways are directed (by Don Ross) to Rob Hughes' Ontario Railway History Page.


There are now more than fifty (50) BOXCAB pages;
see the main Boxcabs page and the Boxcabs INDEX.


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To tour the Boxcabs pages in sequence, the arrows take you from the the previous page, to the Boxcabs index, to the first boxcabs page, and on to continuation pages 3 and up, then 100-tonner LIRR #401 and her sisters, survivor boxcabs (with map) and survivor notes, survivor CNJ #1000 (the very first), Ingersoll-Rand boxcabs (with instruction manual), other (non-ALCo/GE/I-R) boxcabs, Baldwin-Westinghouse boxcabs, odd boxcabs, and finally model boxcabs.



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