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  1. How do I know if a vintage gown will
    fit me?

     

  2. How can I be sure I am measuring myself correctly?
     

  3. I don't normally wear vintage clothing, so what should I expect?
     

  4. Where can I order a dress just like the one I see on your website, only in my size?
     

  5. Are there vintage plus sizes?

 


How do I know if a gown will fit me properly?

Whether or not an item of clothing will fit is the most fundamental consideration when buying from any Internet website.  

Know your exact measurements.

Wishing, hoping and praying that the gown will fit you is setting yourself up for disappointment.  It also causes us needless hours of wasted time when we package a gown for someone who thinks the size of a gown is going to magically change in the mail.  Don't do it! (You'll just be disappointed) Don't fool yourself and please be realistic.  We'll place the gown on hold for you to figure it out, so don't worry.

You've got to know your exact measurements.

Match the fit for the largest part of your body and have your dress tailored to fit (taken in by a seamstress)

Our gowns are measured at the bust, waist and hip, from shoulder to hem length, accounting for maximum height allowed.

If the gown's style is an Empire, the underbust rather than the waist measurement is most important!

We sometimes give an estimate of the present day dress size for a gown, but it is an estimate.

Remember, there is no set Worldwide standard for SIZE in the clothing industry.  Every International and American designer uses their own sizing process.  Which means that, while a designer can guarantee the size of a gown, they cannot guarantee if it will fit.  Crazy, huh?

Your dress size isn't as important as your actual measurements.


Do you know them?

Most women are any combination of sizes, eg.: 32-25-36, 34-28-39 or 38-31-41.  Find out yours by buying a tape measure.

If you cannot find a tape measure, use a long string or thread instead.  Place the string around you waist, etc. and then measure against a yardstick or ruler.

Go crazy with that string girl!

Don't Forget!

It is nearly impossible to purchase any item of vintage clothing and not think that it won't need alterations for "fit."

Match the fit for the largest part of your body and have your dress tailored to fit (taken in by a seamstress)

 

Vintage gowns were likely altered once already and almost NEVER include a seam allowance, unless they are deadstock and have never been worn.

If the gown is not a deadstock gown and is from an estate, the chances are, if you love a vintage dress, someone else did too.  Its probably already been altered!

An experienced bridal seamstress will only be able to take the dress in at the seams to make it smaller.

Keep in mind that taking in any dress is easier than letting it out, but a vintage gown can usually ONLY be taken in.

 

No matter how much you love a gown that is listed on the website, if the measurements you take with a tape measure are too large to fit the gown, 
it's best to move on... 
sigh...

OK, for you diehards that say never give up.

Dissecting a vintage lace gown to insert "gussets" for a larger size will almost always be a disaster!  Laces may have aged to a patina and will often be difficult to match.

Unless you are really creative, your attempts to re-size a vintage gown may prove less than successful and economically distressing.  Argggh!

Please Note:

Most contemporary gowns include an allowance in the seams which an experienced bridal seamstress will be able to let out or take in.

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How can I be sure I am measuring myself correctly?

Good question!  The shoulders and bustline are the most important area for fitting a vintage gown.  The suspension of the gown falls from this area and the fit of this area is critical for any movement.  There's a solution for this that all pattern makers use, and its called "wearing ease."

Basic wearing ease for a close fitting garment can often run up to an inch allowance at the waist and two inches at the hip and the bust!  You'll be the best judge for your body, but please don't cheat yourself.

We suggest to all of our brides that it is better to go a size larger and add the "wearing ease" to your measurements, at least by an inch.  Alterations can then be utilized to custom fit the gown to your form.  It is best to budget an additional $100 should you need custom alterations for your gown to fit perfectly.


Start with the fit for the biggest part of your body and have your dress tailored (taken in by a seamstress)

HEY! Every single actress that you see on the Fashion Files has had at least two fittings for the dress they wear to the Emmys or Oscars.

They don't wear "off the rack" without a fitting. Why should you?

Take it in a little!

Start with the fit for the biggest part of your body .  Is it your hips? Bust? Waist?

 


Let's start with the easy part:  your height.
How tall are you?

The website will show a maximum allowable height for each gown.  If a gown is "suitable for all heights," this means that the gown is not petite and does not appear to have been altered.  Read the height suggestion box on the main description page so that you understand how to add eleven inches for your head.  For example, if a gown is 56 inches from the shoulder to hem, adding 11 inches for your head means the gown will fit a 5' 7" Bride. (56 + 11 = 67 inches)

And remember, the issuing height for contemporary bridal wear is set at a standard of 58 inches tall.  Adding eleven inches for your head means that the Bridal Wear Industry cuts their gowns to fit a 5' 9" Bride. All others will have to alter hem length before wearing or wear high heels.

Next, the bust.  Did you know that even though you wear a size 34 bra band that your cup size adds on inches?  For instance, a 34B can add on 2 inches to the bust measurement so that you are actually 36 inches.  Here's how it works:

A cup = 1 inch
B cup = 2 inches
C Cup = 3 inches
D cup = 4 inches
DD cup is 5 inches

OK, let's try!  Keeping the tape measure horizontally straight, measure around the fullest part of the bust and the widest part of the back.  Stick your chest out and be proud!  Don't Slouch!  Write this measurement down.  You might be surprised to find out that although you wear a size 34 C bra, your actual measurement at your bust is 36-38 inches!

Next the shoulders.  In order to measure from the shoulder seam across to the shoulder seam, place your right hand under your arm, cupping your left armpit.  Your index finger should be pointing to your back at approximately where your shoulder seam would be.  (Wear a tight fitting t-shirt if its easier for you to find the seam location.)  Now measure across to the other side. Write this down.

If your gown is an empire or raised waistline, the fit is going to be tight right underneath the seam area.  Wrap the tape measure around your ribcage just below the bust and exhale until the tape is comfortably settled. Check the website photos to see just where the seam falls on the mannequin. Most often this area is where an underwire is located on an underwire bra.  Write this measurement down. Then, wrap the measuring tape around your waist and exhale, letting the tape settle at your natural waistline.  Do not pull the tape measure tight.  You should be able to comfortably sit with the tape measure in place.  If not, allow for "wearing ease."

Finally, measure around the fullest part of the hip.  Depending on your height, this area should be above your uppermost thigh, approximately 7-9 inches below the waist.  

OK, you're set!  You should have measurements that should be somewhere in the range of this:

47-63 inches shoulder to hem Height
12-17 inches back Shoulder armpit to armpit

30.5-45 inches Bust
27 to 32 inches Empire Underbust
22-36 inches Waist
34-50 inches Hip

Now you're ready to see what gowns on the website will fit, adding a one inch "wearing ease" to your measurements at the bust, waist and hip and not your height.

Don't forget to measure your neck circumference for the traditional Victorian wedding neck gowns and sleeve header circumference for 1950's cap sleeve gowns.  Good luck!

 

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I don't normally wear vintage clothing, so what should I expect?

This is an excellent question that all buyers must ask before they make their purchase.  A reputable dealer will give you an honest evaluation of a vintage garment and it's "wearability."

 Just remember you'll be wearing clothing that's been on the planet longer than you have.  Give your gown a gentle respect, just as you would towards any senior citizen.

Most vint "aged" gowns are perfectly suited for quiet, candlelit, historical settings involving intimate sit down dinners, but some authentic historical gowns may be fragile in condition and may restrict you from rock and roll dancing.

The best way to choose your gown is to determine how important "activities" are at your reception and then choose a style that will accommodate your movements.

A Word of Advice from Your Fairy Godmother

Chances are, that if you love a vintage dress, someone else did too.  There may be signs that another person wore the garment 30 to 60 years ago.
 
If this fact bothers you and it's important that you are the first person to ever wear your clothes - don't buy vintage.

How can you tell if you're the type to wear a vintage garment?  Just take the following quiz!

Do you like to stand apart from the crowd and be different?

Did you pay attention in history class and think it was cool?

Are you are sick and tired of the unimaginative clothes at the Mall?

Do you feel like a pawn in the fashion industry, being told what to wear in order to be hip?

If you answered yes to the questions above, you're the perfect person for vintage wear.


At Gulden & Brown, we will disclose every flaw we encounter in a garment so that you can make your decision to purchase in an educated manner.  We have been collecting vintage clothing for more than 25 years, studying fabrics, styles and their connection to history.  

We think vintage is cool.  History is cool.
and wearing history is the ultimate BOMB.

Our advice is to buy what you like, but understand that it has been worn and needs tender loving care.  Proper care of your vintage garment will preserve your investment.  

Educating yourself on what your textile is made of is the first step to understanding its limitations. 

All fabric boils down to two classifications. NATURAL (plant/insect/animal matter) or SYNTHETIC (man made material.)  Each category has a distinct shelf-life before it begins to decompose and break down.

Examples are:
 
INSECT MATTER:

  • Silk, spun from the silkworm can begin to shatter and fall apart after 50 years.

The problem is especially severe at the shoulders, if the garment was hung for an extended period of time.  

Antique silk textiles that were produced in the early 19th and 20th century are often chemically unstable due to a process called "weighting".  Weighting involved the addition of metallic salts to the silk to add weight and body to the fabric.  Silk that has been treated with metallic salts containing iron and tin are particularly susceptible and the result is silk that is brittle and frayed.  Silk gowns from the turn of the century and early 1900's can become fragile and tear like crepe paper.

Silk tulle, commonly used in antique veiling is extremely delicate and will seem to melt like cotton candy if bathed in water.

It is very rare to have silk tulle after 35 years from the date of creation.  Vintage headpieces will remain, but the tulle veiling must be replaced.

SYNTHETICS:
                     Polyesters and Nylons can turn grey and begin to become "gummy," especially when treated with chlorine bleach.  Nylon, especially, can decompose within 35 years.

 PLANT MATTER:
                     Cotton laces and nettings can become dry and brittle, losing their structural soundness and suffering from dry rot.  Elastic from the rubber plant will break down structurally and lose its return stretch.  Foam inserts will pulverize to dust.

Scared? 

Don't be...as these are only worse case scenarios.  Many garments are found in wonderful condition.  Most disaster stories occur after a visit to the dry cleaners, which can be a hard lesson to learn.  

The best method of preservation is to wear an item "as is."  If the garment is badly soiled, a simple hand wash and dry flat may work better than a tumble cycle at the dry cleaners.  Many a beautiful garment has been destroyed after a well intended dip in perchloroethylene.  Resist the temptation to do this!  And never, ever have a dry cleaner steam press your wedding gown with the steam press machine.  Always insist they do it by hand and be willing to pay extra for it.  This will reduce the chances of caramelized starch deposits being pressed into your gown.  Your vintage dress will thank you in the long run!

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Where can I order a dress just like the one I see on your website, only in my size?

We do get asked this allot, but please don't confuse us with a modern day department store!  We search high and low for quality gowns. We'd like to emphasize that the vintage dresses we sell, with the exception of the gowns on the contemporary page, are singular "time capsules" of fashion history.  They are not currently mass-produced nor are they sold through a chain of retailers.  Each gown that we have found is a treasure trove of past fashion history.  It has been worn at a moment in time and then cleaned and restored by us in the hopes that someone new will cherish and wear the gown again.

Our vintage gowns are found in all parts of the United States, England and Canada, and most come from private estates.  We have but the one gown!  Some of our gowns have a well documented history or "provenance."  This means that we have proof of their sketched design, the pattern and seamstress notes and the original date of creation as well as the wedding portrait and family name of the original bride.  Some of these gowns have been kept in their respective families for 50 to 85 years before they were acquired by Gulden & Brown.

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What is the return policy on orders?


Our refund policy page will explain this thoroughly.
  Please visit!

 Most of the gowns at Gulden & Brown are covered by a cheerful satisfaction guarantee less the return shipping and a 10% re-stocking fee.  We allow you a 5-day return policy based on trust and honor that the gown will be returned in the same condition that it was sent to your door.  

We have a strict non-smoking policy at our business, therefore if you are a smoker and wish to purchase a gown, you must abide by our non-smoking request while you are reviewing the gown.  Should you wish to keep the gown, by all means, light up and enjoy.  

Should you have any questions, please don't hesitate to e-mail us.  If you'd like to place a gown on hold, e-mail us with your hometown information and we'll place a hold on the gown for three days.

 

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Why don't you carry plus sizes?

At the times when corseting was greatly in vogue and when miniscule waists were much admired, a girl would be expected to have a waist of 22 inches by the time she was sixteen and 16 inches by the time she was eighteen to twenty years of age. 

Women often slept in their corsets to maintain the regimen. The most extreme example mentioned in Godey's was a waist of 12 inches.

Godeys 1877

Yeegads!

Unfortunately, a plus size vintage gown is very rare and when found, sells quickly, often before we can place it on the website.  The majority of gowns we find are limited to a present day size 8 and smaller.

Why?

In the past, restraint garments such as girdles and corsets were worn to emphasize the hourglass look.

The use of these foundation undergarments has all but disappeared from our society, therefore some of the sizes on vintage gowns do not seem humanly possible.

Brides in the past married quite young and generally speaking, took pride in being the weaker sex. Inactivity was the very practice of a lady.  In the 20th Century, women are still pulling and prodding themselves into form fitting girdles, but a fact remains that our bodies are changing with each generation. 

We are more active physically, we wear less constricting corsets, we are waiting longer to marry, we are no longer considered frail.

 

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